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When Brock and Perkins went their own ways at the end of 1991 the hardware passed to Advantage Racing, a subsidiary of sports management and marketing company Advantage International. The team closed at the end of 1993 with Brock and Mobil moving to Tom Walkinshaw’s HRT in 1994. While the outward impression was always that it was Brock's team, I recall that Alan Gow was a shareholder in the late 80s prior to him heading to the UK and not sure what the Advantage International arrangement was. |
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On the entry list for the opening 1988 ATCC round, i have the Brock M3's entered under HDT Racing P/L ... so the "Mobil 1 Racing" banner was probably adopted during the season. Advantage must have had an ownership of some sort in the '92/'93 team, as Frazer wanted to go it alone after Brock left for HRT... didn't come to fruition though of course.
About the Nissan team at Symmons, the reason only Richards ran was that the team was on skeleton staff at the meeting, with team members left at home to concentrate on the building of the GTR. Skaife was at Symmons though, turning some laps practice (source: The Great Race 1990/91) |
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The only other AE82s to race in Australia were the TTA cars, one of which they sold to Sala at the right price to get him out of the hard to beat Gazelle. Sala later sold that car to Brad Stratton who raced it for many years and then sold it to Peter Herlihen a couple of years ago. Peter has now restored that car to it's TTA specification & livery. Scott King owns the other TTA AE82, it is immaculately restored. Bob still owns & races one of his TOM's AE82s, the other is owned by Terry O'Beirne and is currently up for sale. They are not restored and both in original condition. I bought Bob's second AE86 from Terry O'Beirne in 2007 and completed a ground up restoration two weeks ago. The 1990 ATCC round at Symmons Plains was the only time Matt Springer raced the car. |
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The Liddiard & Dolley cars were private but shells/parts may well have been sourced from Tom's. IIRC, one or both of those privateers continued racing their cars in UK Club Mod Prods into the early 90's so may not have gone to Australia? |
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TOM'S GB then ran Dowsett in a fwd Corolla for a full BTCC season, plus the TT. I don't know if it was the same car throughout, or two cars After TOM'S ended their involvement with the Corolla, Dowsett ran them as a privateer for the 1989 season- From about mid-season, a new operation was set up called Rayscar, which ran Dowsett's ex-TOM'S Corolla, and Les Liddiard's car. According to an Autosport piece mentioned in the 1989 BTCC thread, Rayscar was a partnership between Liddiard, Ray Selley and Tony Matthews (both ex-TOM'S GB IIRC), and apparently had plans to run an ex-MIL Supra for Dowsett in 1990 I don't think I remember any definite suggestion that the Liddiard car was of TOM'S origin, but as you say, they may well have sourced parts or a shell from that direction. Could Les Liddiard's car have been the second one to go to Australia? Tony Dolley's name rings a vague bell in connection with ModProds in the early 90's, so maybe his car ended up there? |
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Now you, KA and chunterer, mention a second TOM'S GB-based AE82 I recollect that a Japanese crewed blue Bijø sponsored car appeared for the 24 hours of Spa 1988. If I'm not totally off that race collided with a BTCC round, and with Phil Dowsett in the running for the '88 BTCC title, it's likely a second car was needed for Spa.
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I remember watching some of these races as a kid. However, outside the C7 telecast I had no idea of what was going on and could not put performances in perspective (wasn't buying magazines then). Some years ago, Motor Racing Australia produced this season as one of their "retro race" articles, explaining the strengths and weaknesses of the Skyline against the Sierra's and how Gibson Motosport and Richards went about their tactics for particular races. It would definitely be one of the better ATCC's won, wouldn't it? (not that I know about all seasons). Of all of his achievements, I wonder how Richards ranks this win?
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What was the circumstance of Ken Matthews one-off appearance at Phillip Island.
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Ken Matthews ran his car from the previous year which was originally the 1988 Bathurst winner in Longhursts hands before he took all the good bits off and sold it Ken
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Ray Lintott had campaigned a Sierra with Valvoline sponsorship during 1990. It was an ex DJR car with assistance from DJR. Which car was it? I have always wondered if it was a brand new vehicle or on old one they had on sold
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I think the story at the time was that it was brand new.
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It was DJR3, the 1988 ATCC winner, and the car that DJR took to the Silverstone TT in 1988. The car became Bowe's for 1989, before being sold to Lintott for 1990.
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Unusual to see a BMW 635 (Carrig), Ford Mustang (Nelson) and Rover Vitesse (Herbert) competing in 1990, when they were no longer truly competitive. When did the homologation run out for these cars?
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The 635CSI was raced up until 1992 I think. If the manufacturer keeps renewing the Homologation like Toyota did with the AE86 Sprinter then it doesn't run out
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The Rover was on it's last legs in term of homologation in 1990, as it lapsed at the end of the year. The 635 was group A legal to the end of 1993, when the whole category was more or less obsolete, while the newer of two Ford Mustang homologations survived the BMW by two years.
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1990 was probably one of, if not the most competitive of the Group A and Group C years in Australia.
At any given race any of the top teams could win (some obviously would need luck in the ATCC. The Holden's weren't really a factor in that). Johnson & Bowe, Brock & Miedecke, Seton & Fury, Bond, Longhurst & Jones in the Fords, Gibbo's boys in the Nissan's and even Pommy Percy and Larry Perkins in the V8 Commodore's were a chance. Yes the ATCC was still a turbo benefit and no one really expected anything different, but the Commodore's were coming on strong and a full season of development on the race track would finally see the Walkinshaw VL as a force come the late season enduros. The Sierra's were probably at the peak of their development, before 1992's CAMS enforced 7,500 rev limit showed them that there was an alternative path to fast lap times other than outright horsepower. The HR31 Skyline was similar in that it was at the peak of its development in 1990 and in Jimmy Richards, Nissan had just the right driver to exploit it. And of course Nissan had the better than anything else GT-R waiting to be unleashed mid-season. And for the first time since Perkins ran his team under the HSV banner in 1988, there was a factory Holden team on the grid with Win Percy running the newly formed HRT and doing the driving. A Pom running an Australian factory backed team that was owned by a Scotsman took a bit of getting used to for those who grew up worshiping Brocky and the HDT. But I think most Holden fans were just happy that they had a V8 Commodore or two to cheer for after two years of domination by that blue oval mob. Here is a bit of interesting information regarding the 1990 Tooheys 1000. Some of you might already know, but some who read this might not be aware that Fred Gibson's team pulled a very VERY illegal swifty the night before the race..... I don't know what the actual problem was, but late on the Saturday afternoon the team discovered something very wrong with the brand new GT-R that Richo had qualified 11th. It was actually enough that the car simply could not race and there was nowhere near enough time to fix the problem. There remained 2 solutions. Scratch the car which was undesirable as the boss of NISMO (Mr Aoki) was at Bathurst to see the car in action. Or they could do something totally illegal and race a completely different car, but they had to make sure they got away with it. So, under the cover of darkness that night the team swapped everything they could....including Seven's racecam unit and the compliance plates, and put it all into the spare GT-R which was the one Skaife had debuted at Mallala earlier in the year. The ATCC car masquerading as the new car lined up on the grid the next morning with Richo ready to storm to the lead and put the fear of God into the Sierra's and no one knew anything about what had gone on the night before. |
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As to the problem, I honestly don't know what it was but it was big enough to have Gibbo's team do what they did. The story is true though and the car they raced was not the car that had qualified. |
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