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24 Feb 2012, 13:48 (Ref:3030385) | #451 | |
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You never know when it comes to the ACO. I, along with many here hope this is not the case. That is, Porsche waiting till 2015.
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someone on this board mentioned that the aco were creating the regs with the fia since many years, so its not just the aco whos writing the regs.
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24 Feb 2012, 15:00 (Ref:3030414) | #453 | |
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The million dollar question: who creates the ACO regulations? The ACO? The FIA? Or the P1 manufacturers? I'd bet that it's the manufacturers and the manufacturers can't quite agree on a set of rules. One could say that it's the ACO's fault for letting the manufacturers write the rules essentially. Well, that's assuming that there is a problem with the new regulations. It's pure speculation at this point and I'd say the Porsche 2015 rumor is pure speculation too unless Hindy really does know something that we don't. Porsche seems to be revving up their program towards a 2014 go at things, but odd things happen especially when the ACO is involved. Or should I say not involved. Ah, hell, it's both isn't it?!
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It depends. NASCAR rules with an iron fist. They aren't going to get bullied by manufacturers. I don't think the manufacturers have as much pull with the IRL either as compared to sports car racing. That leads to a bit more predictability because you know where the series stands on certain issues. This is not to say that things are totally certain, but things seem more chaotic in European manufacturer-centric racing.
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However, in sports car racing, there are so many different technologies on the same track that it is near impossible to provide a perfect solution. The ACO lets manufacturers decide the rules because those manufacturers are ultimately the ones investing in their respect programs. They build everything from the chassis to the engine and everything in between. Chevrolet or Ford don't build NASCAR cars, the teams (like Hendrick and Roush do that). Same applies to Indycar. Manufacturers are what keep sports car racing alive, and unfortunately, they have to have their way. Now, with Audi, Toyota, Porsche, and possibly Nissan and Peugeot in for 2014, deciding on a set of regulations will be a nightmare. This time I believe it is the duty of the ACO to release a confirmed set of rules before the end of this season in order for manufacturers and privaters to start preparing. |
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I think the difference is the source of money. In American racing, money is primarily funneled from private sponsors to private teams. Manufacturers are involved in the mix as well, but it's a real "team" effort so to speak. In European racing, it seems to be more of a manufacturer-only focus. I'm not so sure if that's the right way. Manufacturers do dominate in sports car racing on both sides of the pond, but I'm not so sure if that's the way things should be. The new regs are supposed to be quite wide open. Why all the fuss? That is assuming there is a fuss that is. Perhaps a few cheapskate manufacturers are wanting cost controls and others do not? |
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Hello dear friends of the forum, I would like to propose to you an idea.
Let's talk to all the contacts we have for designers and others can draw what they think will be the new Porsche LMP1 2014. People present their designs with a link and at the end of each month the people of the forum vote for best design. What do you think of the idea ... :-) |
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for sure produces less drag than AMR-one....
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9 Mar 2012, 20:28 (Ref:3037675) | #465 | |
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Upright seating position should help with the visibility issues in some of the newer LMP1 cars. I think they should be able to see over the front fenders just fine!
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I wonder how this will help their racing cars and those of their VAG compatriots?
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/porsche-buys-nardo/ |
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RCE May issue: http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=416218491&p=83
Small interview with Durheimer. Some peculiar answers about Audi and Porsche competing (or not) together. |
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I wonder if Porsche would go back to the ALMS with Penske and Audi would contest the WEC? Hopefully the two makes would face off at Le Mans, though that was not the case with the RS Spyders. The series has been extremely good to Porsche over the last few years and they have to like that commitment.
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The article basically alluded to the fact that having both Audi and Porsche in Le Mans is a waste of brand exposure when you consider the other motorsport series they arent actively in like F1. It pretty much said that they will race each other in 2014 but soon enough one of the two teams will go to F1 which is a horrible idea.
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I like the fact that they could at least face each other in 2014. That means a new car from both so would make sense to extend that into at least 2015.
You'd hope by that time the series would have been boosted enough to be okay if either leaves. |
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Weren't there rumors saying that Audi wants to go to F1?
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