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Old 19 Oct 2012, 10:13 (Ref:3154276)   #1
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So... these 2 were the way the V8Supercar CotF project was presented to the punters at the Motor Show..




Nobody understood what they were, no posters, no girls explaining stuff, no footage of Bathurst, or promos by drivers, or signings...

Or in reality much of a presentation of Ford Falcon.. they showed the hotted up ones, or the EcoBoost thing.. mostly the imported small cars...but not anything to do with the road going Falcon.

Having said that, Holden as Bathurst winner of a couple of weeks ago, didnt have a Team Vodafone car on display, even the show car would have been better than ignoring it.

Mobil1 had an HRT mockup race car in a display... but hardly the point.

While the nice ladies at Nissan were handing out posters of the R32 GT-R to anyone who wanted one... Nissan Know How...

The question has to be.. is V8Supercar & its teams.. serious about showcasing its product to the automotive audience?

The CotF is a significant piece of news.. it could have been showcased for its technology... shown Nissan and Mercedes entering.. all kinds of positive stuff..

Instead... zero..

Weird..
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 10:21 (Ref:3154282)   #2
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Personal opinion here; it's because they (whomever was responsible for the display) assume the punters follow and understand what COTF is all about. Arrogance, ignorance...call it what you will. Is this why motor sport in trouble?
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 10:27 (Ref:3154286)   #3
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Personal opinion here; it's because they (whomever was responsible for the display) assume the punters follow and understand what COTF is all about. Arrogance, ignorance...call it what you will. Is this why motor sport in trouble?
The CotF car was at the entrance to the Convention Centre. You walk past it as if it is just some hotted up Falcon.

There is a Subaru BRZ inside that has been tarted up with a roll cage and some carbon fibre which doesnt make it anything at all...

Maybe with the benefit of the doubt... ignorance?
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 10:32 (Ref:3154289)   #4
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So... these 2 were the way the V8Supercar CotF project was presented to the punters at the Motor Show..




Nobody understood what they were, no posters, no girls explaining stuff, no footage of Bathurst, or promos by drivers, or signings...

Or in reality much of a presentation of Ford Falcon.. they showed the hotted up ones, or the EcoBoost thing.. mostly the imported small cars...but not anything to do with the road going Falcon.

Having said that, Holden as Bathurst winner of a couple of weeks ago, didnt have a Team Vodafone car on display, even the show car would have been better than ignoring it.

Mobil1 had an HRT mockup race car in a display... but hardly the point.

While the nice ladies at Nissan were handing out posters of the R32 GT-R to anyone who wanted one... Nissan Know How...

The question has to be.. is V8Supercar & its teams.. serious about showcasing its product to the automotive audience?

The CotF is a significant piece of news.. it could have been showcased for its technology... shown Nissan and Mercedes entering.. all kinds of positive stuff..

Instead... zero..

Weird..
I was going to shorten the post in the qoute, however. It's all correct in my book. I have been telling my best mate for years (who is a Top Fuel racer) that every chance to promote your sport to other petrol heads or car lovers should never be missed.

Very strange .
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 10:46 (Ref:3154293)   #5
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No wonder their losing in car sales, not enough promotion, btw this car looks soo nice.
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 11:32 (Ref:3154314)   #6
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So... these 2 were the way the V8Supercar CotF project was presented to the punters at the Motor Show..




Nobody understood what they were, no posters, no girls explaining stuff, no footage of Bathurst, or promos by drivers, or signings...

Or in reality much of a presentation of Ford Falcon.. they showed the hotted up ones, or the EcoBoost thing.. mostly the imported small cars...but not anything to do with the road going Falcon.

Having said that, Holden as Bathurst winner of a couple of weeks ago, didnt have a Team Vodafone car on display, even the show car would have been better than ignoring it.

Mobil1 had an HRT mockup race car in a display... but hardly the point.

While the nice ladies at Nissan were handing out posters of the R32 GT-R to anyone who wanted one... Nissan Know How...

The question has to be.. is V8Supercar & its teams.. serious about showcasing its product to the automotive audience?

The CotF is a significant piece of news.. it could have been showcased for its technology... shown Nissan and Mercedes entering.. all kinds of positive stuff..

Instead... zero..

Weird..
Given that this is clearly an FPV (Ford) display, I don't get how you think the lack of any information is a problem caused by V8 Supercar or its teams.

More like (yet another) example of Ford not really managing the racing side of things at all well.
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 11:49 (Ref:3154324)   #7
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Does a 1960 marketing term still hold true
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 12:04 (Ref:3154333)   #8
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The dumb marketing was on behalf of V8SC not Ford or Holden.
By the way Win on Sunday Sell on Monday didn't work in 1963.
I bought my Cortina GT on the Thursday!
(Ordered actually, by Thursday there was a three month wait)
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 12:30 (Ref:3154348)   #9
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While the nice ladies at Nissan were handing out posters of the R32 GT-R to anyone who wanted one... Nissan Know How...
So why haven't you uploaded a photo of them?

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The question has to be.. is V8Supercar & its teams.. serious about showcasing its product to the automotive audience?
You're a mod. Don't you know? It's all about entertaining the (fair weather) "fans".


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No it isn't.

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The dumb marketing was on behalf of V8SC not Ford or Holden.
By the way Win on Sunday Sell on Monday didn't work in 1963.
I bought my Cortina GT on the Thursday!
(Ordered actually, by Thursday there was a three month wait)
Would've been irresistable to the broads in those days, hey? "Just like Jim Clark!"
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 12:41 (Ref:3154352)   #10
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Is there any other point in a manufacturer going racing? One or two minor manufacturers (Ginetta springs to mind) might do it because they're petrol heads but for a global/national mass manufacturer it has to be based on a marketing excercise of some sort.
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 19:07 (Ref:3154492)   #11
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It is all about dollars and what they can and can't afford, just to get a stand at the show is HUGE dollars
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 22:55 (Ref:3154568)   #12
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There is a Subaru BRZ inside that has been tarted up with a roll cage and some carbon fibre which doesnt make it anything at all...
Rollcage, big AP brakes, lightweight wheels, sticky Pirelli semislicks, raceseat etc. Far more relevant than a V8Supercar to the buying public. I can buy a BRZ (albeit with a long waiting list), and then buy the mods and chuck it around the track. It's far cheaper than buying a COTF from FPR

Even Hyundai were plugging their race-ready Hyundai Veloster Turbo for tarmaxc rallying, production car racing etc. The link? It's 90% a roadcar with track mods, not the other way around.

COTF is completely irrelevant to the car buying public, it looks the same, it sounds the same, and will go roughly the same as the outgoing car. It's only the real fans who have any idea of the difference, and they won't make up a significant proportion of Motor Show attendees.
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Old 19 Oct 2012, 23:24 (Ref:3154575)   #13
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Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, well that explains why Ford is starting to go arse up here in Australia, Not doing much winning, so not doing much selling .
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Old 20 Oct 2012, 01:50 (Ref:3154609)   #14
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It is all about dollars and what they can and can't afford, just to get a stand at the show is HUGE dollars
So spend a little bit more and get value from doing it or don't bother turning up
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The dumb marketing was on behalf of V8SC not Ford or Holden.
Definitely a Ford display at the sydney motor show - nothing at all to do with V8SC.

V8SC on the other hand, when they first did a display re COTF nearly a year ago at Homebush, had both Ford & Holden, all the back story, heaps of info etc etc.
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