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Audi Quattro in a forest The sound. Oh the sound.....
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I was going to ask what has that to do with sportscars, but maybe little bit
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Le Mans 1971, in French, but pictures talk by themselves.
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Late '90 GT1 had sequential gear box, is not a "full" manual, you're right, but drivers had to use clutch everytime during changing or shifting! it was a lot more stressfull than actual GTE/GT3 cars where drivers must to use clutch only to restart after a pit stop and to insert R. Don't forget also that nowadays the stick has basicly disappearead and with paddles, drivers never move arms from the steering wheel. About aero, well, the CLK and the 911 GT1 were not less than true prototypes, but we can't compare the old aero quality and downforce amount with the actual racing cars.
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After watching FIA GT from that era and seeing how tail happy the Mercedes were, they must've been a handful to drive flat out, whatever gearbox they were using.
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SMG gearbox worked on the same principals as motorcycle gearboxes going all the way back to the Peugeot 905 in 1993. Usually, it was pull the lever back for up shifts, push forward for downshifts, aside from the McLaren F1, which was "backward" from that.
Personally, I see stick SMG gearboxes as an unhappy comprise--with paddles, you can keep both hands on the wheel and with a H pattern manual, you could skip gears if the gearbox was dodgy or to suit driving tactics. |
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If late 90s GTs looked hard to drive, why not go back 10 years... Group C cars. And those were probably pretty pleasant ones to drive compared to 917... and so on.
But I think in the past 10 years or so a new level of "looks too easy" has been reached. When I watch onboards from LMPs or GTLM/Es, the word that comes to mind is: uninspiring. Even when compared to early 2000s, there is a big difference (e.g. this). I guess it is a combination of many things, cars being generally better handling, more advanced powersteering making it look like steering requires no effort at all, electronics and sadly traction control. It has become hard to even tell when the driver is really pushing. I don't think stick shifting adds really that much. For example this onboard from is very exciting, the amount steering action and continuous corrections easily compensate. |
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Carbotanium, the only time drivers needed to use clutch back then was starting and on downshifts, the box flat shifted on the upshift.
I think the fact cars look easy to drive is a combination of things, not the least sports biosciences, look at how fit and strong pro drivers today are compared to those years ago.... |
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Apologies for continuing off topic, but putting my pedants hat on for a minute, while in the 90s Finland couldn't boast a domestic manufacturer of their own, Valmet built Saabs for the world market from the late 60s, and all Porsche Boxster and Cayman models were produced there until 2011. Vauxhall / Opel Calibra, also sundry Talbots and Ladas, and since last year the Mercedes A Class....
Made some cool farm tractors as well, think at one time Juha Kankkunen was sponsored by them! |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBEngMWNZe4 Maybe more recent cars like CLK and 911 GT1 had a more advanced gearbox, this I don't know, but surely that kind of driving was a lot stressfull than now, where drivers don't need to use clutch at all (if not to restart or to use R). |
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Well. That was different.
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Anyone recall the awesome Porsche Motorsport ad shown during the first hour of the Sebring 12 Hour this year? I can't find it anywhere..
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Vallelunga 1973
The opening of the 1973 season at Vallelunga had been the first report of a sport-car race I read on a magazine. Souvenir.
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I was surfing Drive's youtube channel and came across this informative look at Audis Customer Sport programme which builds and supports the Audi R8 LMS and its customer. Quite interesting how many production components are used in the car.
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