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They did 345kmh at Le Mans right? Thats 214mph! Imagine theyd go as fast or faster.
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9 Aug 2014, 22:56 (Ref:3442902) | #3129 | |
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All countries aren't equal in the eyes of. North America is a huge market for all of these manufacturers. Would you prefer a WEC round in Jordan or 12 hours of Sebring?
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Ok enough. Get over yourselves. Any more of this garbage and whoever annoys me the most (and it may be more than one) gets a holiday. Clear?
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Just so you understand, it's going way beyond this forum regardless. There are people whose livelihoods and reputations depend on information staying within the company and if it looks like there is a problem then they take it very seriously. Beyond that, anyone here can choose to enjoy information supplied by others and can also choose whether or not it is true. The shame is that I know several people on here who genuinely do have real knowledge of some of the true inside goings on and yet some others don't want to believe it. If I annoy you with this reply then no doubt it won't be seen and so be it. |
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19 Aug 2014, 15:14 (Ref:3445430) | #3138 | |
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Andretti Racing pulling out of Sports Car Racing was a shame but the reason is more complex than most would think.
It wasn't just one reason. |
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I'm assuming budget and talent weren't in place? Schedule not line up ideally?
The one I'm most curious about is whether or not Andretti's thoughts next year's rules had an impact on the decision. |
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19 Aug 2014, 15:57 (Ref:3445445) | #3140 | |
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Maybe they were counting on signing Pagenaud in Indycar. In additino to budget issues. Montagny-Pagenaud would be unstoppable.
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20 Aug 2014, 16:02 (Ref:3445735) | #3142 | |
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What I'm hearing why Andretti backed away from P2 in 2015.
Most of it is because the IMSA/ACO have not set 2015 Rules/BOP yet. Some of the complex reasons. 1)BOP of the P2 and DP in America. 2)ACO has not yet to announce whether they will allow ALL-PRO teams in P2 next year. 3)There are also rules about how much factory backing help a WEC P2 team can get. When Andretti announced his P2 program,he thought all this would be decided by now and it's not! |
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20 Aug 2014, 16:53 (Ref:3445749) | #3143 | ||
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Andretti never announced a P(2) program nor confirmed the plans to start one, all that was published was that they were expected to close in on one. It was always about TUSC, not WEC - so no (direct) business with the ACO, just IMSA. See http://racer.com/imsa/item/104153-im...ototype-return Class rules are laid out until 2016 and BoP is done whenever IMSA feels like it (and therefor almost on a race-by-race routine). Pro line up concerns are not relevant since they are allowed in TUSC. Factory support as in manufacturer run teams is not allowed - pretty much anything else is in TUSC (look at Ford and GM). So much for being an insider... |
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Maybe announced is being interpreted differently. I announce to Tire Rack when I want to buy some tires. I don't announce it to other people. While announcements are typically reserved for confirmations in this environment, there's nothing to say it's the only way of using it.
Just because racer reported on one aspect of the story doesn't mean there weren't other facets. Maybe I'm being naive, but is it that far fetched to think that Andretti ALSO wanted to run WEC, and therefore was concerned about rule sets between the two? Yes I know you can change for the two series (ESM at COTO) but wouldn't it be easier just to run as identical as possible for both? As far as the BOP, it is possible that IMSA not being forth coming with their BOP changes gave Andretti enough heart burn to back away from the project. It sounds like you guys are both saying the same thing different ways...Not really different enough to dismiss someone as having information.. |
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20 Aug 2014, 18:21 (Ref:3445761) | #3145 | ||
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Andretti will not race TUSCC with the NASCAR backed DP is BOP to win and that will not change.They was hoping the BOP will be fixed by 2015 but with the latest statement from IMSA that this is the best they can do and no more major changes expected. So was going to take the HPD P2 to WEC. Can't do that because ACO/WEC doesn't allow ALL-PRO drivers in P2. Also because it was going to have Honda/HPD backing,that also kills it to race in WEC. So again the BOP in TUSCC kept them from racing there and the rules at WEC killed the P2 program with Andretti. To make you happy...that was my thoughts(opinion) after talking with friends at Andretti. Last edited by Christian Mogami; 20 Aug 2014 at 18:32. |
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Troll? Has been a regular contributor for some time now.
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20 Aug 2014, 18:33 (Ref:3445769) | #3147 | |
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Yeah, but he questioned Chrstian Mogami's "insider' status with Hinda/HPD ... and Christian mogami is also a long-time contributor with a solid record of not making stuff up and telling the real stuff.
Anyway, it is mostly a question of tone, and on the Internet that is notoriously hard to decipher---I think we mostly read things in our own image because we usually can't tell what the other person was really thinking--but that said, Coach Ep's post did seem a bit over-critical. I'd have given Christian Mogami the benefit of the doubt. For all we know they were both typing away with giant smiles, and we only think they were really in a net-spat. Who cares anyway? The rest of us got the good information and explanation. |
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20 Aug 2014, 18:43 (Ref:3445773) | #3148 | ||
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If one didn't care, why would one respond?!
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20 Aug 2014, 19:08 (Ref:3445785) | #3149 | |
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No matter what, someone will always be critical.
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20 Aug 2014, 19:39 (Ref:3445798) | #3150 | ||
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You shouldn't make blanket statements like "No matter what..." <- Definitely a "critical comment" joke about people being critical.
I don't know why, but I feel like I bought into the hype train this time around. As though somehow it would be different. Maybe because it seemed like it had credible parties involved, and not once did someone utter, "If you only know what I know." |
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