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23 Apr 2017, 23:57 (Ref:3728800) | #1 | |||
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Dunlop Admits Tyre Construction Faults
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The fact there's an admission they've got to talk to the factory, assess the "reams and reams" of team supplied info, look at data, better understand the heat generation and flex on a hot tyre all points to them having absolutely no idea the cause yet. That they have to "nut our way through it and go from there", and and "we’ll nut it out and get to the bottom of it" does not instill confidence either; certainly not for this fan anyway. That kind of language to describe the process, in what appears to be a major problem, should cause alarm. A couple of mates working on their Holden HQ in the backyard might nut out a problem, but with such high stakes I would hope for more. If I was in charge, I'd be instructing those with some influence to be less concerned about social media commentary and be more focused on ensuring that, come Bathurst, the drivers, the equipment and the event is not compromised ... at all... in the slightest way ... zero... zilch ... naddah |
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Ohh... they PAY for them !
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what about the sheep stations that were lost,how are they going to be re-couped
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I liked the exploding tyre concept,maybe the could make it interactive with the fans?,turn about a Holden then a Ford..
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Interestingly, I recently spent about as much buying road tyres for my Honda Accord as a set of Supercar Dunlops costs. And have already done several thousand kilometres on them, and I havent had one pop.. Did I get ripped off, or should VASA be demanding a better tyre, even if it was for more money. |
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It will be interesting to see what happens at Barbagallo which is known to be very abrasive but does not have the very fast corners such as turn one at P.I.
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A closer comparison would be that could buy a set of road-legal Nankang AR-1 80-treadwear R-Compound tyres for about the same price as the set you bought... They review very well for the price -- great for trackdays, super sprints and hillclimbs, but of course they would heat cycle out if used for highway use excessively (and dangerous in the rain due to little tread). China make some great tyres these days. AR-1s are significantly cheaper than the Hankook Z221 R-compound that were the mandatory tyre in the Bathurst 6 hour. I wouldn't mind seeing an emerging brand like Federal or Nankang as the Supercars tyre supplier (or even more established Korean brands like Kumho, Nexen etc... DTM use Hankook as their tyre supplier). However, overall Dunlop seem to do a good job. |
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Should we revisit the aquaplaning problem with the Dunlop wets, and any impact (quite literally) they may have had in the Symkons Plains wreck?
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Probably doesn't help that what we know as 'wets' are in fact only intermediates.
There is an actual SC-spec full wet, but it is not utilised. |
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Had Kumho's come on my Kia, horrible tyres. The Bridgestones I fitted are much better, although the wear rate is concerning (could be my driving style though )
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So definitely not a "blame Dunlop" situation - more involved than that. As usual, the full story takes a little time to emerge. I thought the point about Mr Tander and Mr Crusty at the end was significant - almost a new version of "to finish first, first you need to finish". |
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Let's also remember Moto GP at Phillip Island in 2013.Bridgestone's tyres couldn't survive for more than 10 laps so there was a mandatory bike change half way through a 19 lap race.In Moto2 where Dunlop was the tyre supplier the race distance was halved because competitors don't have second bikes.
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Worrisome that something like this could ruin your championship charge though.
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There appears to be a weakness in the tyre based that didnt cope with what the teams were trying to achieve which was consistent across all tyres. Some team got a handle on it on friday, others didnt. |
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Dunlop To Test Supercar Control Tyres... At Bathurst!!!
Let the tyres pop at 300 km/h instead on 280 km/h. Smart Cars can still crash and hurt stuff on test days.. |
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