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Monaco does narrow the power gap though?
Plus it is kind of a handling circuit. Seems that the chassis is showing its spurs again. Hopefulky one or both can get into Q2 at least later today. |
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Well that was an improvement, both cars in q3 even if one could not actually take part
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Norris testing a 2011 McLaren in Portugal. Might they take a punt on promoting him in 2018 if Alonso leaves?
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I wonder if the title of this thread is correct? Surely it should read; Can McLaren Complete?
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are they finishing races though?
3 checkered flags out of 12 (or 10 if you exclude Monaco) i believe i have just read somewhere. some good Q3 performances for sure and this isnt really a knock on them but its been pretty dire so far this year. |
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given where they are on the points table, taking out Saubers could also count as a positive result/race finishes.
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I fully expect that by the end of season McLaren will outscore Sauber. I will be shocked if Sauber scores much more than they have now while McLaren will have some sort of rebound via improvements from Honda. It will not take much to overall Sauber (such a low bar! ) Plus with Sauber using Honda power and McLaren transmissions next year... Maybe McLaren should go easy on Sauber! Richard |
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Honda "might" provide an updated power unit (with focus on ICE) in Canada. This same story, with essentially identical quotes, has shown up on two of the Motorsports Network sites...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ade-for-canada https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-tight-913408/ Reading between the lines, it sounds like they have improvements that are being validated to see if they provide increased performance and are also reliable. Richard |
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What's to lose? Might as well throw them at the car.
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IMHO, it's actually an odd article. Or at least the responses from Hasegawa are odd. I tried a bit to see if I could find the source of the quotes. I tend to doubt it was an exclusive interview with the Motorsports Network/Autosport.com/Motorsport.com. I wonder if maybe it is a bad translation? Also, if they are going to take a penalty for a new power unit, they probably should at least expect it to be more reliable than what they have today. So that is likely a factor in just tossing it in and seeing what happens. Plus, there will be publicity around a new unit, so if it goes bad, that is worse than not releasing an update and keeping the status quo.
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I considered the if the upgrade doesn't work that is more bad publicity, but I thought it can't get much worse
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Maybe both cars will fail before the start!
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The end is nigh...
Zak Brown: "I don’t want to get into what our options are. Our preference is to win the world championship with Honda. But at some point you need to make a decision as to whether that’s achievable. And we have serious concerns. "Missing upgrades, and upgrades not delivering to the level we were told they were going to, you can only take that so long. And we’re near our limit." "There’s lots of things that go into the decision and we’re entering that window now of 'which way do you go when you come to the fork in the road'." http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mo...-idUSKBN18Y297 |
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"a fork in the road" says it all.....Honda will be dumped very soon if they dont sort their act out, they appear to be on their very last warning from MrClaren, and this time its public and from Zak Brown directly
But who would McLaren use next year.......they cannot consider Merc or Renault viable options......Ferrari is out of the question.......I can still imagine, that behind the secnes Mclaren will be trying to entice a prebium brand into the sport, then walk into Ilmor to handle the R&D side.......someone like Jagual-Land-Rover (JLR) would fit the bill perfectly.......as financing their own engine deal will end in tears I'm quite sure. McLaren-Renault or McLaren-Infiniti sounds quite smart...... |
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All this talk is interesting and it certainly looks like the writing is on the wall to the ending of the McLaren-Honda partnership.
Surely though, didn't teams need to register their PU supplier for next year by the end of last month (May)? I thought that this was why the Sauber-Honda deal was announced so early? |
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