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Old 8 Aug 2017, 06:44 (Ref:3758123)   #256
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8 hours of Spa and Fuji sound good to me.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 06:46 (Ref:3758124)   #257
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scratch 8 at Fuji, I lose enough sleep that weekend as is.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 06:48 (Ref:3758126)   #258
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Also, 6 hours seems to work for European (and to a lesser extent, North American) TV.
Seems to work how? Eurosport doesn't show many regular WEC races live. Was even Watkins Glen fully on Fox Sports 1.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 13:27 (Ref:3758173)   #259
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I'm not the biggest fan of the six hour races either. You sacrifice half a day for the race but don't really get that rewarding feeling you get from longer races.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 13:41 (Ref:3758176)   #260
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WEC is never ever going to be getting viewing figures that can justify 6 hours of TV solid every single race. They should concentrate on internet exposure and be ahead of the curve for that one. This is something they're currently trying their best to fail on, as the service provided is poor. No RLM, different commentators each race, very very poor quality site, erratic video quality. It's just bad. They are upload races to YouTube afterwards, which is fantastic, but the live experience is still very poor and patchy.

This is purely my opinion and I'm sure many would disagree -

6 Hours of Silverstone
10 Hours of Spa
24 Hours of Le Mans
3 Hours of Nurburgring (make the sprint race European, less travel)
6 Hours of Mexico
12 Hours of....somewhere American
8 Hours of Fuji
6 hours of Shanghai

Lets change it up. Lets create classics. If IMSA made Petit Le Mans 2h 40m then it'd be just another race, and that's what the ACO is doing to the WEC. But I'm sure they can create an awesome 12 Hour race in America (Indy? don't know) that'll catch on. Japanese fans are crazy, they deserve a good long one too. Let's have some variety and give each race it's own feeling, rather than a stamped out 6 hour event which is what we get now. There will be problems with my suggestion obviously, but just putting it out there that varying things would be good for everyone.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 15:28 (Ref:3758203)   #261
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I would think races being shortened from 6 hours to 5 hours is more likely than anything to account for the 1 hour GTE sprint race.
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Old 8 Aug 2017, 16:09 (Ref:3758209)   #262
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I don't think an American WEC race is sustainable after the COTA contract expires, unfortunately. At least under the current rules set and two tracks it restricts you to.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 01:28 (Ref:3758301)   #263
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Since the Houston fence deal the FIA has really distanced themselves from any responsibility for the iffy state of American race tracks. Neither NASCAR and by extension IMSA nor IndyCar really follow FIA track grading.
Judging by the latest FIA list of licensed circuits (that of July 13, 2017), the issue looks to have been resolved. The following U.S. circuits are listed as Grade 2, with the license expiration date:

Barber, March 17, 2020 — not on FIA list of September 28, 2016
Lime Rock, February 5, 2019
Long Beach, April 6, 2018 — not on FIA list of September 28, 2016
Nola, March 31, 2018
Road America, January 15, 2020 — not on FIA list of September 28, 2016
Road Atlanta, April 15, 2018
Sebring, February 27, 2018
St. Petersburg, March 9, 2020 — not on FIA list of September 28, 2016
VIR, January 10, 2019 — not on FIA list of September 28, 2016
Watkins Glen, June 8, 2019

(COTA and Indy are, of course, Grade 1. Mosport is list as Grade 2.)
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 02:53 (Ref:3758308)   #264
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http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...netterton.html

I don't recall seeing this, so . . .
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I don't think an American WEC race is sustainable after the COTA contract expires, unfortunately. At least under the current rules set and two tracks it restricts you to.
If you ran it as a combo weekend at any of the non-street circuit tracks that IMSA races at next year it would draw solid attendance. The WEC went out and picked the worst sports car track in the country to draw a crowd at the hardest time of the year.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 03:23 (Ref:3758315)   #266
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If you ran it as a combo weekend at any of the non-street circuit tracks that IMSA races at next year it would draw solid attendance. The WEC went out and picked the worst sports car track in the country to draw a crowd at the hardest time of the year.
Like, I don't know, let's say Road America? Those darn pit walls though.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 05:36 (Ref:3758330)   #267
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The WEC went out and picked the worst sports car track in the country to draw a crowd at the hardest time of the year.
True, but the WEC has a rather restrictive business model and one of the few dates & places that fits is COTA in September, which, as you said, doesn’t draw well.

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If you ran it as a combo weekend at any of the non-street circuit tracks that IMSA races at next year it would draw solid attendance.
Which, of course, doesn’t fit what the WEC is try to do (6 hour raccs at Grade 1 circuits). Even if the the WEC were willing to race at a Grade 2 circuit besides Le Mans, I’m not sure a combines date is in either series’ interest. It wouldn’t help IMSA’s branding and marketing efforts.

The WEC brass won’t like it if the IMSA part of the show draws better or comes across better than the WEC race, which is quite possible. The news stories about DPi versus LMP1 that a combined date would invite aren’t something the WEC is looking for right now.
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Old 9 Aug 2017, 08:13 (Ref:3758342)   #268
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The WEC feel that they need a North American round. It could be argued that Mexico City counts. But we don't know the future of even that race beyond this year with the financial problems that the promoter's having.

Only viable NA tracks, unless the ACO decide to take a hit/swallow their pride and run at a Grade 2 track, are Indy GP and Montreal.
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I think Silverstone needs to be a 12 hour event, or if not, then at least start the race at 17:00 local time so that it finishes in the dark.
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I think Silverstone needs to be a 12 hour event, or if not, then at least start the race at 17:00 local time so that it finishes in the dark.
Doesn't Silverstone have massive NIMBY-issues that make night racing pretty much impossible?

Also: 6h in April are already pretty miserable weatherwise - 12h in April is pretty much "Kill-me-now"-territory.
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