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Old 6 Dec 2017, 16:18 (Ref:3785470)   #3556
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Or fix a Saab!
Maybe...

BTW, I see Johnny Hallyday has sadly passed away. He was probably the nearest any French pop star has got to be internationally known. Is that correct, Gerard?
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 16:44 (Ref:3785474)   #3557
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We ain’t seen nothing yet, Grant! I’ve just be reading about some of the tech that will be needed on level 3 autonomous cars. As well as all the sensors, cameras and radar, one manufacturer is trialling some sort of rotating laser fitted to their test cars......

BTW That Lambo SUV will be circa £165k- for that you could buy 6 Qashqai.....
At least the level 3 tech will be someone else's problem when we are all renting mobility on demand.

However the implications of the complexity might suggest simplification.

i.e. reduce the unknowable risks.

So if all cars on the road had to have the same basic safety systems with fails safe operation the entire system could be simplified.

Obvious benefits for safety.

There will be a law along soon ....


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Re the Lambo.

Cheapskates. Or are they avoiding competition with the Bentley?

Maybe the rest of the price will be made up of must have options!
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 17:27 (Ref:3785491)   #3558
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Maybe...

BTW, I see Johnny Hallyday has sadly passed away. He was probably the nearest any French pop star has got to be internationally known. Is that correct, Gerard?
wot about Francoise Hardy?
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 17:33 (Ref:3785493)   #3559
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Mike, I do some marketing work for a friend who sells wheel alignment equipment. All these systems (known as Advanced Driver Assistance Systems or ADAS) have sensors that require re-calibration after minor shunts or even windscreen changes. It's a big business opportunity for us, but an expensive PITA for car owners. When they become compulsory, many people will be priced out of driving.

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Old 6 Dec 2017, 18:32 (Ref:3785505)   #3560
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wot about Francoise Hardy?
and Edith Piaf and what about that Serge wotsisname bloke who was married to Jane Birkin?
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 18:39 (Ref:3785508)   #3561
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Not sure I’d call all of them ‘pop stars’.......
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 18:40 (Ref:3785510)   #3562
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and Edith Piaf and what about that Serge wotsisname bloke who was married to Jane Birkin?
And Vanessa Paradis with that well known French classic 'Joe Le Taxi'!

And the French hits just keep on coming.....
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Re the Lambo.

Cheapskates. Or are they avoiding competition with the Bentley?

Maybe the rest of the price will be made up of must have options!
I was in France the other month staying with an old school friend in his Villa, I don't know where I went wrong in life but we had one of those Bentley's for a runabout. I must admit it was very fast but because of the build quality it didn't give an impression of "speed" as it was absolutely quiet and very "comfy" to ride in.

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Old 6 Dec 2017, 20:40 (Ref:3785523)   #3564
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and Edith Piaf and what about that Serge wotsisname bloke who was married to Jane Birkin?
Serge....


Serge ....

Private Eye, iirc, referred to him as Serge Forward.
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This was the car we had, I must admit it was amazing but not the sort of car that I personally would like.
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Old 6 Dec 2017, 22:52 (Ref:3785553)   #3566
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Serge ....

Private Eye, iirc, referred to him as Serge Forward.
Gainsborough .......... did a bit of painting on the side IIRC.
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This was the car we had, I must admit it was amazing but not the sort of car that I personally would like.
Bentayga! Starting price a lot less than the Lambo..... Supposedly a good SUV but I could never own one just because it is so darn ugly! Worse than a Cayenne.....

And I still wouldn't class some of the listed French singists as pop stars.....
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And Vanessa Paradis with that well known French classic 'Joe Le Taxi'!

And the French hits just keep on coming.....
Not to mention Plastic Bertrand.
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Not to mention Plastic Bertrand.
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On another track, why is it that manufacturers nowadays give so little consideration to the consequences of using small, cheap parts in their products that have built in obsolescence. One such part is fitted to my gas boiler to measure the water pressure inside the system. The sensor is of such poor quality that it requires changing at least once a year (the boiler's only 3.5 years old), and usually fails during the coldest spells. It's costing my gas supplier a fortune to keep coming back to change a tuppenny-ha'penny part that is just so badly designed.
It's all about knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Anyone seen Deepwater Horizon? Most folks think it was a safety issue. In fact it was all about a lack of quality control. BP has a culture of cutting costs in everything from staffing levels to materials and if they can't make the Contractor pay then they don't use the materials.

The disaster occurred because BP had over-run the schedule and they were paying big money per day for the rig. Their managers decided to short cut some vital tests which, had they failed would have cost another ten days or so. Rather than know the quality of the cement grouting, they decided to bury their heads in the sand and wing it.

Of course BP may never recover from the costs but the thirteen who lost their lives and their families will never recover at all.

In my opinion the problem has arisen from the employment of inexperienced graduates rather than experienced personnel in key positions, whether it be engineering or finance. These people have no regard for contracts or procedures, they see things in black and white. You can add Grenfell Tower to that too.

A bit of a leap from Mike's gas boiler (ours at home has also just failed yesterday), but a generally relevant viewpoint methinks.

BTW Graduates when they have experience are as good as anyone.
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