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Exactly Alan, that's why it needs to be a strong penalty in race conditions.
Make it more of a free for all and the risks are greater. |
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6 Dec 2017, 11:29 (Ref:3785404) | #52 | |
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I wasnt suggesting there should be a fine in the race. just listing what happens in practise
10 seconds is a significant penalty, more sever than is gained by being by being a few kms over |
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Whilst we're at it, get rid of these Judges of Fact that change from event to event. Assign a set of officials for the whole year for the category. There's too much at stake, sponsors, prize money, gambling and so on, to be messing around with volunteers in positions like this. Yes they all do a great job and these events wouldn't happen without them, but there's some positions that need full timers in them. |
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“The Dorian timing system is a foolproof, point to point system with an accuracy to 1/10,000 of a second,” the statement read.
Its basic maths, on the assumption it is set up right it has to be accurate. If it is not set up right then why didnt it catch the other teams. why did it catch two cars from one team To me that is more likely a DJRTP error |
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It would seem more likely a DJR mistake, however, it was said that Scotty was over by a small amount. If the other teams were being more (overly) cautious and if the system wasn't setup right (possible, human error) maybe it makes sense.
That's a whole lot of ifs though |
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Case in point, forgive me for the ball sport reference. Kevin Sheedy once said that he would be more than happy for a player to commit a foul that resulted in a 15m penalty, because the advantage gained by potentially slowing the game down more than outweighed the miniscule penalty. The AFL changed the penalty to 50m, and Sheedy changed his mind. |
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There's nothing to stop the teams running their cars at 1kph under the limit and aiming to be down to that speed 10 yds before the line. No risk of a costly mistake then if it's that important for the championship. And if all teams do it, there's no loss of gain.
The problem is trying to run right to the absolute edge, and the further problem is trying to avoid the consequences of doing so and not being quite on the money. |
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Who could blame them for doing so?
Soon they might find out the rules are simply made up as they go. |
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That has been in question for a number of years, as has the race administration. I agree the horse has bolted, as the protest period is long gone. But nothing wrong with proving the penalty was assigned erroneously, as it might prevent further poor snap decisions....like the penalising of drivers in the Phillip Island round who crossed a white line painted on the pit entry road, only after they had been spotted transgressing on the tv broadcast. |
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And in Victoria we have laser sensors at some intersections....cross the line, your ass is there's....and I literally mean that....
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So any rumours, untruths or plain old gossip from the meeting?
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Point-to-point cameras in NSW are only used to monitor the speed of heavy vehicles.
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