WEC Rebellion Racing - Page 76

Lutzvic · 8 Mar 2018, 15:19 (Ref:3806866)

The strategy is to have the car late with no testing??[/QUOTE]

So no BoP will be on place

Mike E · 8 Mar 2018, 17:13 (Ref:3806894)

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Originally Posted by canaglia

Unclear, according to some rumors this 4.5L is an updated version of the old engine that powered old zytek-ginetta lmp1 back in late '00.
According to others is an enlarged lmp2 engine.

"The new LMP1 engine supplied by Gibson will be based upon their successful LMP2 engine."

http://www.gibsontech.co.uk/gibson-s...ct-dragonspeed

**Bentley03** · 8 Mar 2018, 17:55 (Ref:3806899)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Interesting quote from Menezes about the late rollout of the Rebellion car:

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Yes, we’re a little bit behind the curve in terms of pre-season testing – the R13 probably won’t roll out until the Prologue test at Paul Ricard early next month, which means the first race at Spa will be quite literally a shakedown for Le Mans – but that is a deliberate tactic.

The strategy is to have the car late with no testing??

Makes no sense at all, unless he means they are treating the Spa race as nothing more than a pre Le Mans test session, and will be running through a testing programme, rather than racing.

TF110 · 8 Mar 2018, 23:27 (Ref:3806949)

I think the word shakedown is being taken a bit too literally. It will most likely be shaken down a couple of days before the prologue or at the prologue. Spa will be a race for them not an official test, I think the wording is mixing up the plans.

Akrapovic · 9 Mar 2018, 07:28 (Ref:3806994)

Yes, I think there are a bit of crossed wires there. It's not deliberate in that "we wanted to be late", more a case of "we're late, but we won't rush, so Spa is a shakedown"

**Bentley03** · 9 Mar 2018, 08:26 (Ref:3807001)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Yes, I think there are a bit of crossed wires there. It's not deliberate in that "we wanted to be late", more a case of "we're late, but we won't rush, so Spa is a shakedown"

Yep, and rolled out with a low downforce Le Mans specific aero package.

**joeb** · 9 Mar 2018, 13:56 (Ref:3807059)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Yes, I think there are a bit of crossed wires there. It's not deliberate in that "we wanted to be late", more a case of "we're late, but we won't rush, so Spa is a shakedown"

That makes more sense, taking their time to learn the car.

Deleted · 9 Mar 2018, 15:55 (Ref:3807077)

The Oreca rollout track record isn't too promising for them though

2014 R-One Debut - missed Ricard, missed Silverstone (Lola used instead), first appearance at Spa
2015 AER installation - missed Ricard, missed Silverstone, missed Spa, first appearance a brief shakedown at HTTT couple of days before LM Test Day

So I think they'll miss Ricard at least

The only positive thing about force majeure non-show and/or "treating everything as mere shakedown" would be to decrease the chance of any possible negative ACP BoP adjustment aimed towards nonhybrid armada prior LM, if the chassis are as fast as we are expecting to be

TF110 · 12 Mar 2018, 16:22 (Ref:3807526)

According to the prologue entry list, one Rebellion R13 lmp1 will be there and it's listed to do the whole 30-hour endurance test! Will be interesting to see how it does.

Deleted · 12 Mar 2018, 17:10 (Ref:3807535)

Well, hopefully they get it there!

It'll be relatively empty track for the most part of that 30 hours I think so good time to get things shakedown'd

Deleted · 13 Mar 2018, 00:13 (Ref:3807614)

Sort of bizarre but we have second different Rebellion "sponsored" LMP2 team now
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...-lmp2-chassis/

**Bentley03** · 13 Mar 2018, 07:21 (Ref:3807688)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Sort of bizarre but we have second different Rebellion "sponsored" LMP2 team now
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...-lmp2-chassis/

I guess there are 3 Rebellion owned 07's needing homes and I'm sure it'll become clearer what the deal is in due course. Presumably this confirms also that Oreca are not using Rebellion's existing 07 tubs as the basis for the R13's.

Tique · 13 Mar 2018, 10:19 (Ref:3807717)

I believe that they can use Oreca 07 tubs as a LMP1 is around 100kg lighter than a LMP2.

**Bentley03** · 13 Mar 2018, 13:40 (Ref:3807744)

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Originally Posted by Tique

I believe that they can use Oreca 07 tubs as a LMP1 is around 100kg lighter than a LMP2.

Correct, the R13's will have 07 tubs.

Welcome to 10Tenths!

Juntos · 13 Mar 2018, 23:59 (Ref:3807830)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

It'll be relatively empty track for the most part of that 30 hours I think so good time to get things shakedown'd

Yes, they can tested the unexpected that no one will suspect. All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.

This is the kind of opponent that Toyota will have!

TF110 · 14 Mar 2018, 04:10 (Ref:3807854)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

Yes, they can tested the unexpected that no one will suspect. All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.

This is the kind of opponent that Toyota will have!

Nothing is a guarantee, Toyota has (frustratingly) displayed that throughout their history at Le Mans.

EffectiveSprinkles · 22 Mar 2018, 19:19 (Ref:3809960)

https://twitter.com/RebellionRacing/...67842716045312

Lotterer Jani and Senna in the #1 car. That is one hell of a lineup!

**Aysedasi** · 22 Mar 2018, 22:02 (Ref:3809987)

Strange, I thought we knew that already - I've had that line-up down on my list from the time the drivers were first announced.....

NSX_LeMans · 22 Mar 2018, 23:05 (Ref:3809995)

This has been announced last month.

**Bentley03** · 4 Apr 2018, 17:47 (Ref:3812850)

TVR LMP1 teaser - Rebellion link?

GT6 · 4 Apr 2018, 17:51 (Ref:3812851)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

TVR LMP1 teaser - Rebellion link?

Dam i had hoped the rebellion would be ultra reliable and finish the race. Only kidding

Deleted · 4 Apr 2018, 18:02 (Ref:3812854)

Meh I don't really care when rebranding like this gets done, it would have just as low effect as "Aston Martin" + "TAG Heuer" on Red Bull Renault

(I mean already Rebellion watch brand is rebranding the Oreca chassis but TVR's actual car company which is different, plus at least Rebellion is also the team name so it's not pure badge job as with Alpine etc)

TF110 · 4 Apr 2018, 20:55 (Ref:3812892)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Meh I don't really care when rebranding like this gets done, it would have just as low effect as "Aston Martin" + "TAG Heuer" on Red Bull Renault

(I mean already Rebellion watch brand is rebranding the Oreca chassis but TVR's actual car company which is different, plus at least Rebellion is also the team name so it's not pure badge job as with Alpine etc)

At least with the chassis, they might have some say in how it develops. If TVR is just advertising, it diminishes the name a little imo. Maybe they actually have some involvement in more than just branding though?

CTD · 4 Apr 2018, 20:57 (Ref:3812895)

First Zenvo and now TVR?
I'm wondering if Rebellion is going for TVR branding on their engine, if it will have an effect on the deal they have with Zenvo for Engines next year?

**Bentley03** · 5 Apr 2018, 05:46 (Ref:3812930)

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Originally Posted by CTD

First Zenvo and now TVR?
I'm wondering if Rebellion is going for TVR branding on their engine, if it will have an effect on the deal they have with Zenvo for Engines next year?

No idea, it's all gone pretty quiet on the Zenvo front, although there's no suggestion that the engine project has been ditched. You said yourself that Zenvo do very little in the media, so I guess no news is not an indicator of the state of play. No news for over a year though, that's quite a long time.

There have certainly been some interesting goings on in the background at Rebellion, since the announcement that they would be returning to LMP1.

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