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Old 12 Apr 2018, 19:09 (Ref:3815073)   #1
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The question isn’t so much how, as why? Sure, ignore regulations and you can make a car go faster. I shudder to think how quickly a rules-free F1 car could lap Spa. You have to wonder how much this cost Porsche.
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Old 12 Apr 2018, 20:09 (Ref:3815085)   #2
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There's quite a lot of conversation about this in the long Porsche thread. But if everyone wants a dedicated thread to this, the 'tour' and such other non-racing antics* as Porsche may come up with for the 919, I'm content not to merge.....

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Old 13 Apr 2018, 08:07 (Ref:3815160)   #3
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So showing how quickly a LMP can go without restrictions and there's the result. Just shows they could be even quicker beasts
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 12:47 (Ref:3815198)   #4
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Take the ballast out of an F1 car and it would go quicker still. So what?
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 19:30 (Ref:3815259)   #5
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The question isn’t so much how, as why? Sure, ignore regulations and you can make a car go faster. I shudder to think how quickly a rules-free F1 car could lap Spa. You have to wonder how much this cost Porsche.
Apparently not much at all. They're using the same car as last year and the upgrades are partially from the scheduled ones for this year's (would be) wec campaign. So the extra stuff like the stiffer suspension, new aero parts, brake by wire upgrades etc are coming from a portion of what Porsche had allotted for this year, but they quit. Now most of the team is working on the Formula E program.
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Old 13 Apr 2018, 20:32 (Ref:3815269)   #6
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Now most of the team is working on the Formula E program.
They must just love that........
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Take the ballast out of an F1 car and it would go quicker still. So what?
Has anyone done that yet with an F1 car?

While clearly the car has gone beyond it's native spec, the point is that at least they have something on track setting actual times. It's not too different than Honda running a modified F1 car at Bonneville back in 2006.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/f...st-f1-car.html

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Excellent media stunt from Porsche. The lacklustre media of today followed like sheeps.
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This is brilliant, but pointless. That’s top.
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Excellent media stunt from Porsche. The lacklustre media of today followed like sheeps.
Yep - right on both counts. Kinda like the Aston Martin Vulcan in some ways, doesn't comply to any the racing regulations of any class or series or formula so whilst it may look like a "racing car" it isn't one and anything that it achieves performance wise is great but completely pointless and means nothing.
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I feel like people are underrating how much of that lap time would have come from the tires alone.
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I feel like people are underrating how much of that lap time would have come from the tires alone.
Not at all - tyres are THE critical performance component on any car, as all other aero/electronic/mechanical performance components are connected to the road surface through the tyres. Free up the tyres, generate way more grip, no need to last more than a lap or two and voila - big improvement in lap times.
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Old 15 Apr 2018, 03:53 (Ref:3815596)   #12
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Betcha Michelin could make those tires go all day if need be. That was one of the reasons they were disappointed in the direction F1 wanted tires to go. They aren't for fast degrading low-life tires. With this project, I want to know how the VW Pikes Peak car does. There isn't rules there and we might see what a no-limits (electric) prototype can do.
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Take the ballast out of an F1 car and it would go quicker still. So what?
Ballast in an F1 car?
If they were carrying ballast there wouldn't be so much controversy about driver weight.
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I think the top ones have a little bit now, but not that much.
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They aren't for fast degrading low-life tires.
I guess you could say what tyre manufacturer would be? It's another one of those F1-related absurdities.....
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