2019 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour - Page 10

E.B · 1 Feb 2019, 03:53 (Ref:3881039)

Gordon Sneddon and Matt Neal made the long trip out UK > Aus to drive an Audi R8 LMGT3 but sadly third driver Peter Storey binned it hard enough to put it out for the weekend in the Am drivers only P1. Sneddon and Neal never even got a lap!.

https://twitter.com/gordonshedden/st...3%26start%3D15

**GTRMagic** · 1 Feb 2019, 04:12 (Ref:3881042)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Gordon Sneddon and Matt Neal made the long trip out UK > Aus to drive an Audi R8 LMGT3 but sadly third driver Peter Storey binned it hard enough to put it out for the weekend in the Am drivers only P1. Sneddon and Neal never even got a lap!.

https://twitter.com/gordonshedden/st...3%26start%3D15

Any spare cars laying around? There are 3 or 4 Marc I cars in the sports sedan event....

deggis · 1 Feb 2019, 07:05 (Ref:3881064)

Fan made spotter guide: https://www.docdroid.net/AR9R8uG/201...tter-guide.pdf

Bodysnatcher · 1 Feb 2019, 07:26 (Ref:3881070)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

There's some saying on Twitter that the marshals didn't react. Pappas wasn't getting out of the car, so the spectators got the track side extinguishers and went to put the fire out.

I have not seen any video yet to form an opinion, but as a marshal at the 12 hour last year, the organisation were very particular that marshals did not go onto a live track (contrary to everything we do in Europe)

airbusA346 · 1 Feb 2019, 08:12 (Ref:3881076)

According to Porsche, Pappas has fractured his right arm and pelvis.

GreenMachine · 1 Feb 2019, 10:21 (Ref:3881086)

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Originally Posted by GreenMachine

No, but I was hoping that he had learnt enough that he wouldn't pull exactly the same stunt as last(?) year ...

Looks like I owe SVG an apology - the Ferrari driver has been held to be mainly responsible and has received a grid penalty. The Fazza will be (apparently) running in tomorrow morning's practice after rebuilding the front end, and getting a new bonnet couriered up overnight.

Bcarr6 · 1 Feb 2019, 11:22 (Ref:3881096)

Gotta give SVG credit for legging it across a live track to check on the other guy. Could have easily gotten out the way and wait for the track team to reach him

**Woolley** · 1 Feb 2019, 13:15 (Ref:3881120)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

There's some saying on Twitter that the marshals didn't react. Pappas wasn't getting out of the car, so the spectators got the track side extinguishers and went to put the fire out.

Unlike UK, marshals don't go trackside on a live track unless instructed. Also they don't have 'incident' marshals as we do at every post. Firies are posted in pairs and the nearest to that point are probably driver's right opposite the LH apex, so quite a way away.

edit: Just spotted BodySnatcher's similar reply.

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 13:39 (Ref:3881126)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Gordon Sneddon and Matt Neal made the long trip out UK > Aus to drive an Audi R8 LMGT3 but sadly third driver Peter Storey binned it hard enough to put it out for the weekend in the Am drivers only P1. Sneddon and Neal never even got a lap!.

https://twitter.com/gordonshedden/st...3%26start%3D15

You gotta be kidding! I saw them on the list and was looking forward to see how they got on. Bummer!! Stinks for all involved.

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 13:42 (Ref:3881127)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

According to Porsche, Pappas has fractured his right arm and pelvis.

Aw man!

Rough start to the weekend but feel for Tim here. Insult to injury, Black Swan has withdrawn.

So that's at least 2 scratches...

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 13:45 (Ref:3881128)

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Originally Posted by Woolley

Unlike UK, marshals don't go trackside on a live track unless instructed. Also they don't have 'incident' marshals as we do at every post. Firies are posted in pairs and the nearest to that point are probably driver's right opposite the LH apex, so quite a way away.

edit: Just spotted BodySnatcher's similar reply.

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Originally Posted by Bodysnatcher

I have not seen any video yet to form an opinion, but as a marshal at the 12 hour last year, the organisation were very particular that marshals did not go onto a live track (contrary to everything we do in Europe)

I mean, we can see why there shouldn't be anyone there. I half applaud the man for wanting to extinguish what could be a dangerous situation, but the impact of the Black Swan Porsche is just to his left (picture right), if I'm correct:

From:
https://www.motorsport.com/endurance...-fire/4331383/

MaskedRacer · 1 Feb 2019, 14:41 (Ref:3881143)

Wow they are dropping like flies. I have never seen a race with so many crash related withdraws BEFORE the race begins. Bathurst consistently has 2-3 every year .

ford71 · 1 Feb 2019, 14:48 (Ref:3881144)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Fan made spotter guide: https://www.docdroid.net/AR9R8uG/201...tter-guide.pdf

Thats great - thanks for posting that up

Anyopenroad · 1 Feb 2019, 15:21 (Ref:3881150)

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Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Wow they are dropping like flies. I have never seen a race with so many crash related withdraws BEFORE the race begins. Bathurst consistently has 2-3 every year .

At what point might it be concluded that this track isn't suitable for modern GT3 cars?

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 18:55 (Ref:3881193)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

At what point might it be concluded that this track isn't suitable for modern GT3 cars?

NEVER, I hope.

Srsly. It's one of the last throwbacks that is just daunting and punishes harshly for mistakes. As long as the overall product remains fun and safety can be managed, game on. The drivers and teams no what they're getting into.

Akrapovic · 1 Feb 2019, 19:35 (Ref:3881209)

tbh, the GT3 stuff is confusing. The cars are getting faster and faster. The whole point in GT3 and the BoP system that it has is that it'd keep everyone at a level playing field, and that helps keeps costs under control. But the BoP has slowly raised the lap times too.

If there are safety concerns at Bathurst, then lets just BoP the cars down a little. Yeah nobody likes slower cars, but I'd rather have GT3 there than not, and it's not like we can argue BoP and GT3 don't go together.

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 20:39 (Ref:3881224)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

tbh, the GT3 stuff is confusing. The cars are getting faster and faster. The whole point in GT3 and the BoP system that it has is that it'd keep everyone at a level playing field, and that helps keeps costs under control. But the BoP has slowly raised the lap times too.

If there are safety concerns at Bathurst, then lets just BoP the cars down a little. Yeah nobody likes slower cars, but I'd rather have GT3 there than not, and it's not like we can argue BoP and GT3 don't go together.

Good points, well made.

We could just be dealing with an anomaly so far. Let's see how the rest of the weekend goes.

chavez · 1 Feb 2019, 20:49 (Ref:3881226)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

At what point might it be concluded that this track isn't suitable for modern GT3 cars?

GT3 cars are difficult to repair with the resources available on hand.

Many a Supercar or back in the day a Group A car, can be severely damaged a repaired within a reasonable amount of time.

airbusA346 · 1 Feb 2019, 21:26 (Ref:3881228)

Video of Pappas's crash yesterday.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/02/02...wzY6gO4fjCdvEU

**skycafe** · 1 Feb 2019, 21:38 (Ref:3881229)

Wow, lost brakes?

airbusA346 · 1 Feb 2019, 21:48 (Ref:3881230)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

Wow, lost brakes?

I think I read somewhere that he moved over to let a BMW past.

airbusA346 · 1 Feb 2019, 22:16 (Ref:3881233)

Stewards might be having a word with Dala Lana again after clipping a KTM.

fieldodreams79 · 1 Feb 2019, 22:29 (Ref:3881234)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Video of Pappas's crash yesterday.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/02/02...wzY6gO4fjCdvEU

Damn. Hard hit.

So if he moved over, he just got off line and lost control on braking? He's far into the off by the time he comes into frame...

airbusA346 · 1 Feb 2019, 22:37 (Ref:3881236)

Now there's video of the aftermath...

https://www.motorsport.com/endurance...iVFLZe4ybgjtbg

Samwhk · 1 Feb 2019, 23:21 (Ref:3881241)

Is the live stream sound cutting in and out for anyone else?

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