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Old 7 Aug 2019, 07:40 (Ref:3921780)   #316
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I havent actually seen Race 3 yet, to be honest, I found the first 2 races so dull I turned over, ill catch up with the highlights before giving my opinions.
The first two races were very dull. The only excitement was Tom Ingrams cat going Pete Tong.

Race 3 was much more interesting. Stuff happened. Lots of people sulked. As it happens the NASCAR meet at Watkins Glen had quite a bit of argy bargy; enough to make the JP/ Sutton look like no more than a couple of kids in a playground calling each other names. I have no doubt that certain drivers in NASCAR are going to find themselves paid back with a solid slam into a concrete wall in the coming weeks. Yes, Bubba Wallace, you. A driver way out of his depth.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 07:44 (Ref:3921782)   #317
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It was loose sheep. Not lose sleep. Wasn't it?
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 07:51 (Ref:3921783)   #318
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The only excitement was Tom Ingrams cat going Pete Tong.


*easy typo to make, I think we all understand what you mean *
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 08:52 (Ref:3921793)   #319
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Tingram looked perfectly confortable even on the straights with TOCA engine even if chased by a Honda and the notoriously fast in straight line Ford , to the point that he wasn't really under threat at the end of the straight , he didn't even need to defend the corner most of the time and that Toyota is also a hatchback
I occasionally help out with a guy in club racing who has the same issue of lack of engine power compared to others but no-one believes him either.

Out in front of his class he pulls away and gets a big lead to the extent that some think he's cheating. If he can't get a clean lap in quali or has a problem and ends up further back than his actual pace would dictate then he gets stuck as the car loses a car length or two on every straight compared to the others but it/he is far faster in the corners.

There's no way to overtake when you're that far behind in the braking zones and, although he closes the gap up through the corner phase and battles for the position on the exit it extends out again as soon as the power kicks in.

I don't think the "problem" is so big in BTCC but even half a car gap can have the same effect.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 09:06 (Ref:3921795)   #320
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HAHA!...Given the context, this is probably best post in the entire forum!
Surprising the big boys with a dictionary and a keyboard didnt pick up on a racing legend on a typo as quick as they did a random poster they could make feel small.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 11:16 (Ref:3921805)   #321
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Decorators have finished then?
You need to be more consistent in your marking if you really want to be the forums resident English teacher, you cant just ignore such a glaring error because its come from an honor student who popped by. Ofsted will have a field day! People come here to learn how to spell correctly, not talk about motorsport after all
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 12:03 (Ref:3921810)   #322
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Care to comment crmalcolm, akrapovic, s Griffin, PORSCHE 962fan to name but a few. Better still, why not come to a race as my guests, you never know, you might actually learn something.. x
Have i missed something? I admit I still haven't seen the highlights of Race 3 but it does sound pretty good, but is there now a tentenths crew competition where if we come on here and knock a racing driver we can get hospitality tickets to the next round or something?
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 16:41 (Ref:3921834)   #323
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You need to be more consistent in your marking if you really want to be the forums resident English teacher, you cant just ignore such a glaring error because its come from an honor student who popped by. Ofsted will have a field day! People come here to learn how to spell correctly, not talk about motorsport after all
Decorators haven't finished yet then.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 17:02 (Ref:3921836)   #324
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Have i missed something? I admit I still haven't seen the highlights of Race 3 but it does sound pretty good, but is there now a tentenths crew competition where if we come on here and knock a racing driver we can get hospitality tickets to the next round or something?
Yeah basically. JPs inviting us round to see it like it is. Rubbing is racing.

If I say Sutton was a bit silly then I'll get shot at again too. If nothing else it showed JP is hungry to win and still can peddle. I reckon he's going to be going round in circles for a good few more years yet...
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 17:05 (Ref:3921837)   #325
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...and Warren Scott best order some more back bumpers before Scoobaru stop making grovels. Maybe they already stopped making grovels? Nobody would know. Or care.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 17:52 (Ref:3921840)   #326
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it amazes me that we have a racing series that has loads of different winners, excitement that is not see in any other racing series, Battles between drivers and cars that get people talking and big audiences because of all those things. Yet people complain, if those people don't like BTCC then watch F1 of Formula E and leave BTCC to the people would love and actually pay money to go and see it. Long may BTCC stay the way it is and long may it have drivers that are so passionate about it they will push te boundaries sometimes, that is why we like it and that is why it is popular.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 18:17 (Ref:3921843)   #327
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it amazes me that we have a racing series that has loads of different winners, excitement that is not see in any other racing series, Battles between drivers and cars that get people talking and big audiences because of all those things. Yet people complain, if those people don't like BTCC then watch F1 of Formula E and leave BTCC to the people would love and actually pay money to go and see it. Long may BTCC stay the way it is and long may it have drivers that are so passionate about it they will push te boundaries sometimes, that is why we like it and that is why it is popular.
I just like seeing racing, not punting cars off the road to win. Clearly, BTCC agree, given the penalties.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 19:43 (Ref:3921851)   #328
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it amazes me that we have a racing series that has loads of different winners, excitement that is not see in any other racing series, Battles between drivers and cars that get people talking and big audiences because of all those things. Yet people complain, if those people don't like BTCC then watch F1 of Formula E and leave BTCC to the people would love and actually pay money to go and see it. Long may BTCC stay the way it is and long may it have drivers that are so passionate about it they will push te boundaries sometimes, that is why we like it and that is why it is popular.
I go and watch the BTCC at Brands - mostly it's great, there's close racing throughout the field and there are some great wheel to wheel battles. There are also boneheaded punts that are hugely frustrating to see. Knowing how much work goes into getting cars ready to compete (and how much it costs even at a club level) seeing wanton destruction and deliberate contact is infuriating. There are enough clean races and overtakes to prove it can be done - but there are also repeat offenders for deliberate contact and this should be clamped down on. It's possible to have great racing without contact.

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I just like seeing racing, not punting cars off the road to win. Clearly, BTCC agree, given the penalties.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 19:48 (Ref:3921854)   #329
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I'm not very comfortable with this idea that if someone doesn't like your idea of racing then they somehow aren't fans. Go to races, go watch races, watch other series, pay money etc. What gives any one of us the right to discredit others as fans? We don't have to like the same kind of racing (and many of us don't), but that doesn't make us any less fans.

I like clean racing. I like BTCC. I don't like when drivers don't play by the rules. If that makes me any less of a fan in your eyes then that's fine. But I am. I have been for a long time, and I (probably) always will be.
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Old 7 Aug 2019, 20:08 (Ref:3921859)   #330
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Yeah basically. JPs inviting us round to see it like it is. Rubbing is racing.

If I say Sutton was a bit silly then I'll get shot at again too. If nothing else it showed JP is hungry to win and still can peddle. I reckon he's going to be going round in circles for a good few more years yet...

Great lets go for it! Thruxton next, which is my local (ish) so if Jason wants to save me entry fee and cost of a sandwich by giving out guest passes to anyone who states they don't like his driving I'm up for that.
Never had a hospitality session, I did enquire a while back but if I knew I only had to post on here that Jasons driving was a bit off id have done this log ago.
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