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We are finalising our our official Homologation submission based on some nice recent developments regarding our ICE engines. We are in discussion with several current entrants about sharing our Hybrid system and other development as well as possibly having customers buying and running our cars alongside of us. We hope Aston's recent stock market performance won't affect their joining us and Toyota in 2020/2021. We're not impressed with their flip statement that all they have to do to the Valkyrie to get it ready is to "detune it". As my friend Mark said: "When the flag drops the bullshit stops." https://www.motor1.com/news/364448/g...WxVWX8nhIu3KCk |
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10 Aug 2019, 17:14 (Ref:3922210) | #7129 | |
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But it is not really the worry of AMR to put it to the pace of anything, as such is the task of BoP committee... So in that regards they are correct in not having to worry, even if the tone of the voice is arrogant
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10 Aug 2019, 18:32 (Ref:3922216) | #7130 | |
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IMHO a RWD/KERS with a small light ICE will have a lot of advantages that even BOP will have trouble evening out.
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10 Aug 2019, 18:55 (Ref:3922220) | #7131 | ||
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since max power output will be the same for everyone, guess that a small-mid sized turbo will be the best choice... toyota has a f1 tech comparable turbo V6, AMR valkirye uses a huge NA V12 revving >10000rpm... wonder how much petrol valkirye would require a stint.... aside this, TMG has already a basically developed car... AMR struggles to understand the aero of their own car.... |
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Also, Lamborghini interested in Hypercar (https://carbuzz.com/news/lamborghini-wants-to-attack-aston-martin-at-le-mans)? Last edited by Dyson Mazda; 11 Aug 2019 at 13:15. |
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11 Aug 2019, 14:29 (Ref:3922293) | #7134 | |
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Even if AMR were to collapse, I don't think the rest of the grid for 2020-2021 opener is looking too bad (unfortunately, as I'd like to see it fail and go back to P1...) so there isn't crisis to be had
2x Toyota Hypercar 2x Glickenhaus Hypercar 1x ByKolles Hypercar 0-2x Ginetta LMP1-Neutered 0-2x Rebellion Oreca (Hybrid?) LMP1-Neutered |
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11 Aug 2019, 16:12 (Ref:3922301) | #7135 | |||
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Also, I think Rebellion (the watch company) might be done funding cars to run in the top class. I’m guessing their P1 budget for 2019/20 is mostly being funded by the drivers in their lineup. Last edited by Dyson Mazda; 11 Aug 2019 at 16:23. |
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11 Aug 2019, 16:56 (Ref:3922307) | #7136 | ||
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There's already people saying they don't cater enough to private entries in the top class, telling them to drop their cars for p2's would be even worse. |
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11 Aug 2019, 17:57 (Ref:3922319) | #7138 | ||
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Letting in LMP1s isn't the same as letting in LMP2s/LMP3s. |
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11 Aug 2019, 18:45 (Ref:3922325) | #7139 | |
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Besides why would anyone bother with Hypercar or whatever if their cheap, spec, rebranded Oreca-Alpine-Aurus-Lada P2s could just be bopped to the pace of overall win
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11 Aug 2019, 18:58 (Ref:3922327) | #7140 | ||
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This is why I don't think we are going to see LMP's in Hypercar. It will be interesting to see if the ACO/FIA will ever get to the point where they are letting the smaller teams consistently beat the Toyota's/other major factory players.
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12 Aug 2019, 06:10 (Ref:3922375) | #7141 | |
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Some cheap garage converted LMP2 will newer be BOPed to the same level as the hypercar.
It's simple, If one want's to have best chances to win LeMans, one must get to hypercar class. Others will have their chance only when hypercars run into issues. Face it, it's the only reality. |
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12 Aug 2019, 06:21 (Ref:3922377) | #7142 | |
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12 Aug 2019, 07:18 (Ref:3922380) | #7143 | |
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They WERE ahead of that lap time. Slowing down LMP2 is a simple task for regulators, even if one reworks LMP2 into to LMP1 the regulators will still slow them down under hypercar class.
I just hope the target 3:30 is a joke and we will se lower times than that. |
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12 Aug 2019, 08:11 (Ref:3922385) | #7144 | |
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No they ARE ahead of that lap time. They currently lap faster than that. So you don't need to BoP up an LMP2 to Hypercar speed. You need to BoP it down.
If you're referring to the next generation LMP2, then it's impossible to claim because nobody knows what it is. But certainly, the current generation is capable of those lap times. |
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12 Aug 2019, 08:32 (Ref:3922391) | #7145 | |
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Yes I know, the thread is Future regulation, so I was writing ahead of the time.
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12 Aug 2019, 11:15 (Ref:3922411) | #7146 | |
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But you are making guarantees about a category no one knows anything about, BOP that can't be established yet since there are NO cars to balance, and frankly a field that may NEED cars outside of the hypercar realm just to maintain the WEC moniker the ACO and FIA seem so desperate to think is needed. 2 Toyota and Glickenhaus cars aren't going to keep things going, and no one else is even close to promoting a car, at this point Aston has so many other things to worry about it's in the same boat as Ginetta and ByKolles bringing forth a hypercar. Although AMR's boat may been even leakier.
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12 Aug 2019, 11:30 (Ref:3922414) | #7147 | |
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What else is there to know? "Hypercar" class will be the top class all other classes will be regulated according to the performance of this top class.
There is test day and a few races before LeMans, plenty of time to make final adjustments. |
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12 Aug 2019, 12:29 (Ref:3922422) | #7148 | |
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12 Aug 2019, 12:42 (Ref:3922426) | #7149 | ||
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They are going to end up with the IMSA DP & P2 issues if they try to BoP two formulas (HC & P1) that are so different
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12 Aug 2019, 13:18 (Ref:3922428) | #7150 | ||
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Did I miss something about Aston ending their program? I understand the company may be missing their financial targets, but has there been any word on their racing activities?
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