2019 VASC Silly Season (WITH POLL)

[GTRMagic]

Is this Mr Stanaway’s replacement?

[Mixer]

Supercars posted about Lee Holdsworth desperately trying to break his 1800 odd day, streak without a podium.

I couldn't resist commenting but someone put me on my place

I stand by my comment, early part of the year was the best chance Lee ever had.

[Forda]

Looks like Chaz has that one covered.

Pity his next comment was cut off.

[Mixer]

He just had a go at other people posting, but I think a fair few are happy to see a current driver engage a "troll", not that I think of myself like that; Lee is a journeyman flattered by a fast car.

I have been called some pretty good names.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Mixer

He just had a go at other people posting, but I think a fair few are happy to see a current driver engage a "troll", not that I think of myself like that; Lee is a journeyman flattered by a fast car.

I have been called some pretty good names.

I think there were some trolls on that thread but your comment wasn’t one of them.

Tickford arguably has 2 journeymen, an inconsistent occasional front runner, and Richie Stanaway’s codriver in his Sandown win..

[Mixer]

Big question, will Randle be in the top 10?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Big question, will Randle be in the top 10?

Mr Randle has been shown to be unlucky at keeping his equipment out of incidents. In theory he is in the 7th best car in the field

[Mixer]

So have Waters and Holdsworth...

[Forda]

Having the best car "in theory" is an interesting concept, as this is exactly what Team 18 and Frosty signed up for just prior to the season's commencement.

[ford71]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Supercars posted about Lee Holdsworth desperately trying to break his 1800 odd day, streak without a podium.

I couldn't resist commenting but someone put me on my place

I stand by my comment, early part of the year was the best chance Lee ever had.

Did you answer him?

[Mixer]

Not relevant anyway, don't need to be a, racing driver to have an opinion.

If Lee couldnt crack a podium while the Mustang burst out of the blocks against Holdens in all sorts, he isn't likely to get one now.

Lee is up 11 spots on last year
Will Davison up 9 spots
Cam Waters up 8 spots

All of them could be higher but for incidents, particularly friendly fire.

The 3 of them didn't just work out how to drive in the off season. The car is the reason for their upturn in form.

If Randle does nicely and I was Lee I might justifiably worry. He is a long time past his best. Sponsor relationship could be the key perhaps. I think that is Cam"s saving grace, he is, otherwise a bit ordinary.

[Forda]

Looks like the general consensus among your facebook 'peers' is that Chaz owned you.

Insofar as being x amount of spots up, that cannot be definitively measured until the end of the season.
Unless you compare where each driver was placed in August 2018 to where they are placed now.

Nevertheless, there are lots of reasons for those driver's improvements this season other than the Mustang alone; including 888 not having their act together, and Lee escaping from the hapless Team 18.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Forda

Nevertheless, there are lots of reasons for those driver's improvements this season other than the Mustang alone; including 888 not having their act together, and Lee escaping from the hapless Team 18.

Right.

Oh the Kellys, WAU & BJR don't have their act together either right?

Waters was higher 2 years ago but both Lee and Will were in the boonies.

Also the hapless Team 18 is only 150 points off Holdsworth with a pole to their name for the year, in a single car team.

[JHamilton]

I did a search and didn't see it posted, but Walkinshaw-Andretti are sending a Canadian and American over for the big race:

https://twitter.com/FollowWAU/status...29433312264197

I don't really need incentive to watch Bathurst, but I will make an extra effort this year to find the full race as I like both of these guys. It's tough as it often "conflicts" with my home race, Petit Le Mans and will again this year.

[Juarez Jed]

If they use Janet Guthrie & Johnny Rutherford as their benchmark then they should be relatively successful.
It will be doubly hard with both drivers lacking experience rather than having co-driver roles.

[JAFA851]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I did a search and didn't see it posted, but Walkinshaw-Andretti are sending a Canadian and American over for the big race:

The definition of stupid is repeating something and expecting a different result.

These 2 guys will wobble around at the back all weekend, and fence it at least once.

[Mixer]

Oh boy

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/09/04...nBGqq73RpkKFc8

In honesty the gurney flap should have been done at the first adjustment.

But watch all the Ford fans on FB have strokes today.

I guess Nissan just changed some stuff but it isn't a good look, as much as I think it is necessary.

[holden151]

With the enduro cup almost upon us seems a few teams are going to run retro liveries - Kelly Racing CASTROL https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/29...thurst-livery/
- Matt Stone Racing SP TOOLS https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/09/03...t-1000-livery/

Heres a little teaser what they may look like - i have no affiliation with any team just curious what they may look like


1999 Castrol Perkins

1999 Castrol/Longhurst

2000 Castrol Perkins - Black

2000 Castrol Perkins - Silver

2003 Castrol Perkins - White

2004 Castrol Perkins

2008 FPR

2009 FPR

2010 PMM

[Mixer]

Nice job mate, they look great, but jesus FPR did a job making everything look ugly.

[mayhem]

I love that Longhurst one, nice job man.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Nice job mate, they look great, but jesus FPR did a job making everything look ugly.

The Ford blue doesn't help the cause

[Mixer]

Crompton and Todd Kelly both resign from Supercars Commission:
https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/09/07...qKzYIkmNpYqxH8

insinuation is that they were not notified of the latest ZB change, and perhaps don't approve of it.

Truth is this commission oversaw the launch of the Mustang this year which was thoroughly ballsed up.

[Forda]

What has been "ballsed up" is the never-ending handicapping of the Mustang, hence the resignations.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Forda

What has been "ballsed up" is the never-ending handicapping of the Mustang, hence the resignations.

Take it however you will, but Penske is spending the same amount of money as the rest of the field put together basically, Supercars were hopelessly unprepared for the homologation of the Mustang (hello, Penske), and I am starting to wonder if this is lights out.

The Kelly's will go Mustang next year and I can't see anybody else buying a Commodore or trying to develop anything else.

Despite 888's dominance in the overall results, they were always beatable, Scotty in the Volvo, and DJR & FPR both proved it with series wins, and plenty of other people were winning things and taking Jamie close to the wire on his series wins.

Now, Scotty is literally untouchable, with a points system designed to keep things close he could win with 2 rounds in his pocket.

The only reason the Mustangs are not taking up the entire top of the chart is that other than Scotty, the rest can't string a result together. Fabian stinks by comparison, and Chaz must have passed half the field twice this year because he's able to, when he makes a mistake, which is often. The rest don't even rate a mention. 2 has-beens and a guy from a reality TV show that probably should have done something by now.

[Forda]

Not sure exactly what is your point here, but perhaps Roland would have been better off taking his own advice, and built a Mustang; instead of trying to homologate a FWD hatchback into a "Supercar"?