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#2 Pye/Luff WAU Mobil1 Holden | 1 | 1.89% | |
#3 Jacobson/Fiore KR Rabble Nissan | 0 | 0% | |
#5 Holdsworth/Randle Tickford Bottle O Ford | 0 | 0% | |
#6 Waters/Caruso Tickford Monster Energy Ford | 0 | 0% | |
#7 Heimgartner/Fullwood KR Plus Fitness Nissan | 1 | 1.89% | |
#8 Percat/Blanchard BJR BJR Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#9 Reynolds/Youlden Erebus Penrite Holden | 5 | 9.43% | |
#12 Coulthard/D'Alberto DJRTP Shell Ford | 0 | 0% | |
#14 Slade/Walsh BJR Freightliner Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#15 Kelly/Wood KR Castrol Nissan | 0 | 0% | |
#17 McLaughlin/Premat DJRTP Shell Ford | 12 | 22.64% | |
#18 Winterbottom/Richards Team18 Irwin Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#19 LeBrocq/Webb Tekno Truck Assist Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#21 Jones/Canto BJR CoolDrive Holden | 1 | 1.89% | |
#22 Courtney/Perkins WAU Mobil1 Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#23 Davison/Davison 23Red Milwaulkee Ford | 1 | 1.89% | |
#27 Hinchcliffe/Rossi WAU Napa Auto Parts Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#33 Stanaway/Pither GRM Boost Mobile Holden | 1 | 1.89% | |
#34 Golding/Muscat GRM Boost Mobile Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#35 Hazelwood/Smith MSR SP Tools Holden | 1 | 1.89% | |
#55 Mostert/Moffat Tickford SuperCheap Auto Ford | 2 | 3.77% | |
#56 Kostecki/Kostecki KBR Boost Mobile Holden | 0 | 0% | |
#78 de Silvestro/Rullo KR Harvey Norman Nissan | 1 | 1.89% | |
#97 Van Gisbergen/Tander RBHRT Red Bull Holden | 14 | 26.42% | |
#99 de Pasquale/Brown Erebus Penrite Holden | 1 | 1.89% | |
#111 Evans/Van Der Drift TKR TKR Holden (SCRATCHED) | 2 | 3.77% | |
#888 Whincup/Lowndes RBHRT Red Bull Holden | 10 | 18.87% | |
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24 Oct 2019, 11:15 (Ref:3936546) | #826 | ||
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24 Oct 2019, 15:47 (Ref:3936586) | #828 | ||
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Can reveal that at Bathurst that car #8 was going to originally have Holden backing through a lion and wildlife sanctuary/charity but pulled out at the last minute due to said sanctuary and charity having a deal with Mercedes in the original country of South Africa. (they have a partnership to a charity here in Aus and the owner of the SA charity is a big motorsport fan)
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24 Oct 2019, 22:47 (Ref:3936636) | #831 | |||
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25 Oct 2019, 02:43 (Ref:3936646) | #832 | ||
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World Vision had a billboard at either Griffin's Bend or the Cutting once upon a time.
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"Your biggest auto race may one day become a Camaro playground", Chris Economaki, Bathurst 1979 |
10 Nov 2019, 00:04 (Ref:3939549) | #833 | ||
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Noise out of Sandown has inspired the Question for the day...
Did the 2 DJRTP engines, one run in practice and changed out due to a ‘technical issue’, and the race-winning race engine, both impounded for inspection by Supercar/Cragsted pass scrutineering for with flying colours? |
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10 Nov 2019, 00:08 (Ref:3939550) | #834 | ||
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Engine used up to quali and shoot-out failed, but the "breach was not deliberate"
Car has been disqualified from quali and the shoot out (whatever that means) but the race results stand? Very fishy. Another "accidental" technical breach from the best funded team in pitliane. No doubt we will get a good explanation from Ryan Story. https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/11/10...engine-breach/ |
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Illegal #17 Bathurst race engine, not deliberate apparently, $30k fine for the team. This, alongside the #12 soft slap on the wrist really takes any shine of the #17 win surely. :angry: |
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You know they figured it out and shelved the engine so they didn't get disqualified from the race, and again deliberately didnt let on so they didn't start rear of grid.
Once I can, wear as a mistake but this is now a pattern. |
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They didn't figure it out, they already knew it was outside the rules.
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Woah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Measurement mistake, engine failure consequences... Mostech’s fault...? They must hire a think tank on a permanent basis to make this stuff up.. How might Mr Penske react to this? |
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10 Nov 2019, 00:29 (Ref:3939564) | #844 | |
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A $30k fine...another slap with a wet lettuce. The only way cheating will be stamped out is by stripping the team of results and applying meaningful points deductions. DJRTP will still win the drivers and teams championships, all that relegating them to the back today will probably extinguish their enduro cup chances, but that's a distant third compared to the other in terms of prestige.
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10 Nov 2019, 00:31 (Ref:3939567) | #845 | |
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Sooooo 17 started from pole.
Pole achieved with an engine outside the rules. This 100% affects race results. Rear wing Drop gear Fabs under SC Cheater engine Have I missed anything? And not appealing any of their fines shows me they don’t care about the money at all. Those fines would sink a BJR type team... which is why they probably don’t break the rules like Penske. |
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Merely a witch-hunt to add excitement to the series.
Did other teams have their engines similarly checked for their valve lift tolerances? Why did a simple measurement take nearly a month to do, and then somehow tie-in just prior to the Sandown race start? Selective use of the rules to generate entertainment value (like with the "safety car") is the bigger crime at hand here. |
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Important difference, unless your view is that they should be disqualified from the race meeting - which could be reasonably argued. |
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10 Nov 2019, 00:52 (Ref:3939577) | #850 | |
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So the precedent is now that anybody can run a hot engine in qualifying at Bathurst, take poll, get all the headlines on the Saturday news / Sunday papers and cop a $30k fine a few rounds later. With usually only 1 or 2 teams in championship contention by this stage of the year, a no brainer for the rest.
The series is struggling enough for credibility as it is without this. A serious review of penalties and their application is needed over the off season. |
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