Baubles Picture Parade. - Page 14

bauble · 18 Nov 2019, 15:49 (Ref:3941442)

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Originally Posted by SJWBallistic

Bob
Indeed the name is well known in our household. He had the Cooper works build the Flash Special in 1957 which is basically a wider and longer Cooper Mk 11 - rumours were that it wss to accommodate his size but looking at period photos that was clearly not the case.
Always looking for more information if you have anything to share.

Stuart

Stuart, no help I'm afraid, I just remember being amused as a lad with the combination of Albert Zains and the Flash Special in the program at Brands Hatch. One of my great regrets in life is giving away all of my race programs when I got married due to the limitations of our first home. Many signed by stars of the day, and not so starry.

Bob.

Gerard C · 18 Nov 2019, 16:27 (Ref:3941450)

E.B, juste hope bauble will allow me for a short quizz about DB cars, particular model is HBR 4/5. From a rear view can you, others too 'f course, spot what elements of the body come from a well known French car. Brand is Peugeot… Same era.

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 09:40 (Ref:3941582)

This photo is not from my archives, but was sent to me from Europe, by a secret admirer, who asks if anyone can identify the car. It is a quiz question I suspect.

Beware perfidious Frogs.

VIVA GT · 19 Nov 2019, 09:50 (Ref:3941584)

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Originally Posted by bauble

This photo is not from my archives, but was sent to me from Europe, by a secret admirer, who asks if anyone can identify the car. It is a quiz question I suspect.

Beware perfidious Frogs.

An interesting looking car there Baub. I'm guessing some sort of 'special' and maybe I'm being seduced by the colour but I'd also suggest it may be French.
It (and the similarly coloured car next to it) has very distinctive wheels/hubs which may help someone in the know to identify it...

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 11:34 (Ref:3941599)

I do not want to get boring so I have moved a little distance away from 'strictly historic'. I hope that no one disapproves. I think the series is obvious.

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 11:55 (Ref:3941602)

Answers via PM please, as some will find this very easy and other may like time to ponder.

Name the drivers.

Mike Bell · 19 Nov 2019, 12:50 (Ref:3941617)

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Originally Posted by bauble

This photo is not from my archives, but was sent to me from Europe, by a secret admirer, who asks if anyone can identify the car. It is a quiz question I suspect.

Beware perfidious Frogs.

1959 DB Panhard HBR5 'Camionnette'- Pretty sure I overtook it on the Mulsanne in the early hours back in 2016…..

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 13:21 (Ref:3941625)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

1959 DB Panhard HBR5 'Camionnette'- Pretty sure I overtook it on the Mulsanne in the early hours back in 2016…..

Tre jolie, Michel!

Mike Harte · 19 Nov 2019, 14:33 (Ref:3941633)

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Originally Posted by bauble

I do not want to get boring so I have moved a little distance away from 'strictly historic'. I hope that no one disapproves. I think the series is obvious.

I'm going to go out on a limb, here, and hazard a guess that the series is Britcar!

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 14:36 (Ref:3941634)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

I'm going to go out on a limb, here, and hazard a guess that the series is Britcar!

Almost right Mike, well …..

bauble · 19 Nov 2019, 15:56 (Ref:3941640)

Personally I think that some of the most beautiful cars ever made are from Italy, and this selection of Ferraris is quite stunning. I am sure that not all will agree but it would be shame if we did. How many millions woudl you ned to own one of these?

Mike Bell · 19 Nov 2019, 16:31 (Ref:3941649)

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Originally Posted by bauble

Personally I think that some of the most beautiful cars ever made are from Italy, and this selection of Ferraris is quite stunning. I am sure that not all will agree but it would be shame if we did. How many millions woudl you ned to own one of these?

Thank you for leaving the breadvan out, in my opinion a contradiction to the above.....

GTO’s OK, but 250SWB perfectly proportioned, 275GTB long-nose just perfect...

Don’t suppose anyone has a pic of the green David Piper GTO with the lowed roofline? Returned to original spec subsequently, I believe?

Gerard C · 19 Nov 2019, 18:50 (Ref:3941663)

Well done for the DB which you could call a breadvan too, Mike. One other strange DB was the "Vitrine", rather nice seen from behind imo.
If you're talking about chassis # 4491 GT, may be its this one:
http://www.passion-fred.fr/ferrari/2...gt/4491gt.html
As you suppose it went back to its original body before certification.
If you click on "making of" its about a report model.

Gerard C · 19 Nov 2019, 18:56 (Ref:3941666)

From this website, the mods were made on 4491 GT, 28th model produced, delivered new in England on the 7th of June 19631, color "BP Green" and RHD. Is this what you were thinking about?

It is said that DP bought it to replace 3767 GT, sold to an American gentleman, and campaigned it in '63 with a win at 9 Hours of Kialami in November co-driver Tony Maggs, race number 8, after a race at Luanda.

You say lowered roof line, it must be more than right with no less than 15 centimeters ( is that 6 inches). Seems the second owner, Peter Sutcliffe, was too tall to drive it comfortably, hence a bubble on the roof…

Mike Bell · 19 Nov 2019, 19:27 (Ref:3941668)

Thanks Gerard, when you see pics of the car with ‘chop’ and without, it’s noticeably different!

Must be a brave man that takes a hacksaw to a GTO......

Gerard C · 19 Nov 2019, 20:02 (Ref:3941675)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Must be a brave man that takes a hacksaw to a GTO......

Its either brave or totally unconscious! I'm not in the market of the 50 M cars but can't understand why they brought it back to its former shape. Its not "more" authentic like that… May be an Italian job to rewrite history. What do I know?

E.B · 20 Nov 2019, 02:27 (Ref:3941701)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Seems the second owner, Peter Sutcliffe, was too tall to drive it comfortably, hence a bubble on the roof…

Hehehe .... a Gurney 'bubble'. Not to be confused with Gurney's 'bubbly incident' at Le Mans.

Mike Bell · 20 Nov 2019, 05:46 (Ref:3941710)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Its either brave or totally unconscious! I'm not in the market of the 50 M cars but can't understand why they brought it back to its former shape. Its not "more" authentic like that… May be an Italian job to rewrite history. What do I know?

Yes, it's disappointing the car doesn't retain the low roof, but guess Ferrrari Classiche wouldn't even consider such vandalism when authenticating the car for a subsequent owner…..

Maybe a well-healed racer could have a replica built!

Gerard C · 20 Nov 2019, 06:43 (Ref:3941718)

Yes certainly we could find an officina to bring back history!

E.B, you're not talking about champagne here, are you? So what happened to this fantastic Daniel Sexton…

Mike Bell · 20 Nov 2019, 07:24 (Ref:3941720)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Well done for the DB which you could call a breadvan too, Mike. One other strange DB was the "Vitrine", rather nice seen from behind imo.

‘La Vitrine’ a bit later, I believe? I find those tiny engined aerodynamic Le Mans ‘specials’ fascinating- maybe you should start a thread in History to talk about them!

Edit- Vitrine before Camionnette?

bauble · 20 Nov 2019, 07:58 (Ref:3941721)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

‘La Vitrine’ a bit later, I believe? I find those tiny engined aerodynamic Le Mans ‘specials’ fascinating- maybe you should start a thread in History to talk about them!

Edit- Vitrine before Camionnette?

'ere! 'ere! Do you lot mind? Clear orf wiv all a yer' airo waffle. this ere's a piktur sight.

Cockney Bob.

bauble · 20 Nov 2019, 08:00 (Ref:3941722)

Never mind the intruders, let's get back to basics.

Gerard C · 20 Nov 2019, 08:52 (Ref:3941726)

Had to make some search to answer Mike's question. Why? Because I dont think possible to find an official entry list with this kind of nickname!! Archives say Camionnette in '59 and La Vitrine in '60. If you have a look to the homologation forms, HBR was listed with several displacement, like 848, 851 and 954.
As Mike pointed this team was chasing 'indice de performance" at Le Mans.
Sorry Bob, go back to your collection now!

bauble · 20 Nov 2019, 09:23 (Ref:3941730)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Had to make some search to answer Mike's question. Why? Because I dont think possible to find an official entry list with this kind of nickname!! Archives say Camionnette in '59 and La Vitrine in '60. If you have a look to the homologation forms, HBR was listed with several displacement, like 848, 851 and 954.
As Mike pointed this team was chasing 'indice de performance" at Le Mans.
Sorry Bob, go back to your collection now!

Gerry it is good that the pictures spark a debate, shows people are interested, although it was not my picture that has caused all of this disruption!!!

Now who was it sent me that image??????

bauble · 20 Nov 2019, 09:26 (Ref:3941731)

Revival 2006;

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