Holden Brand Gone!!!

[Kingair]

The demise of Holden is just start of some very big changes in the automotive industry both here and overseas.

World on the street is that acertain Japanese marque is about to severely cut the number of dealerships in Australia.

Look at the dollars tied up at Essedon Fields(Essendon Airport) in car dealerships, and with falling car sales, car finance hard to get and a crackdown on the lucrative insurance, wheel and tyre insurance and extended warranties etc-would not like to be adealer principal!

[rich07]

Originally Posted by chavez

To be fair, reporting in the general media as opposed to the specialist press has linked the cessation of the Holden brand at the end of this year with "no Commodore racing at Bathurst in 2021"

Which in itself is uninformed which makes things worse. If you were a journalist a bit of research would tell you that Triple 8 have a contract with Holden til end of 2021 and the Commodore itself is a eligible car for the series until end of that year at very least. Even if Holden wrap things up by end of this year they’re not going to pull the contract with Triple 8 because theoretically (and realistically) it’d cost them more to do that rather then leaving the contract to run its course.

Apart from WAU who’ve said they won’t race the Commodore next year I don’t expect much change from the Commodore runners in 2021 except if someone does a Kelly and switched to Mustang. Which with the uncertainty surrounding 2022 onwards doesn’t make a lot of sense. At the moment anyway.

Heck even Penske staying beyond 2021 has a question mark over it-and rightly so.

[Driver TBA]

Originally Posted by rich07

Even if Holden wrap things up by end of this year they’re not going to pull the contract with Triple 8 because theoretically (and realistically) it’d cost them more to do that rather then leaving the contract to run its course.

I'd say it will likely be a mutual early contract termination with a payout at the end of this year.

Detroit will want to be free of as many contracts and commitments as possible. Roland will want to sell those quarter panels to another sponsor and focus on wooing another manufacturer. Instead of serving one that doesn't exist.


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[GROUPA]

Originally Posted by Kingair

The demise of Holden is just start of some very big changes in the automotive industry both here and overseas.

World on the street is that acertain Japanese marque is about to severely cut the number of dealerships in Australia.

Look at the dollars tied up at Essedon Fields(Essendon Airport) in car dealerships, and with falling car sales, car finance hard to get and a crackdown on the lucrative insurance, wheel and tyre insurance and extended warranties etc-would not like to be adealer principal!

Interested to know which brand PM if you don't wish to reply but I would be picking Nissan

[Gaz170]

Originally Posted by rich07

Which in itself is uninformed which makes things worse. If you were a journalist a bit of research would tell you that Triple 8 have a contract with Holden til end of 2021 and the Commodore itself is a eligible car for the series until end of that year at very least. Even if Holden wrap things up by end of this year they’re not going to pull the contract with Triple 8 because theoretically (and realistically) it’d cost them more to do that rather then leaving the contract to run its course.

Apart from WAU who’ve said they won’t race the Commodore next year I don’t expect much change from the Commodore runners in 2021 except if someone does a Kelly and switched to Mustang. Which with the uncertainty surrounding 2022 onwards doesn’t make a lot of sense. At the moment anyway.

Heck even Penske staying beyond 2021 has a question mark over it-and rightly so.

888 will stay with the Commodores until the end of 2021, and keep pocketing the money from the sales of panel and parts. (and possibly beyond in Super 2 - if it still exists then).
Cars may be sporting Holden Parts and Service logos next year as part of a settlement deal.
I can't see the economic sense in anyone changing next year, after that, who knows?

[Juarez Jed]

Originally Posted by GROUPA

Interested to know which brand PM if you don't wish to reply but I would be picking Nissan

Joshua Dowling has identified HONDA> Dealers told to stop new investment in showrooms pending a culling of dealerships (likely 30% of 106).
Worst case scenario is the total withdrawal from Oz but more likely to sell cars via an independent distributor.
Press to be notified March 27.

[thunderbolt]

looks like no gm replacement
https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...ach-agreement/
The settlement, the details of which are commercially confidential, will see the Red Bull Holden Racing Team remain on the grid in its present guise until the end of the current Virgin Australia Supercars Championship season.

[Matt K]

And what's next? 888 switching to Mustangs?

[S griffin]

Who knows? Will 888 even continue? Still as long as we have enough teams, the series will still be there

[Juarez Jed]

The GMSV enterprise has still not been successfully negotiated either as GM wish to own it outright and merely contract Walkinshaw to convert Camaros, Silverados and Tahoes. Apparently no decision yet on Corvette & Cadillac no chance.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Matt K

And what's next? 888 switching to Mustangs?

Does that mean everything is all forgiven between Triple Eight and Ford/Ford Aus after they removed funding to the team at the end of 2008?

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Razor

Does that mean everything is all forgiven between Triple Eight and Ford/Ford Aus after they removed funding to the team at the end of 2008?

Why would you say that? Is your suggestion based on them moving to Mustang? I doubt Roland will travel that road.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Why would you say that? Is your suggestion based on them moving to Mustang? I doubt Roland will travel that road.

It they do, it would ease parity lobbying, which would be great.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

It they do, it would ease parity lobbying, which would be great.

Yeah great. They may as well just all run cars in the 86 series.

Mind you even if everybody's running Mustangs I hear Penske have the best bendy rear wing.

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

It they do, it would ease parity lobbying, which would be great.

I doubt Roland would be that lame to run similar cars.
He is an out of the box type and will have some idea up his sleave than a mustang I would think.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Yeah great.

What do you have against Mustangs!?

At the present point, a Ford one-make series is looking extremely likely. Holden doesn't exist anymore, and nobody else is interested.

A Ford one-make series would be a lot of fun actually, it was pretty good before when it was quasi-one-make.



Mustangs have rear wheel drive, they have a V8 or an Ecoboost four-cylinder turbo, they are lively and exciting to watch, what's not to like?

[Jack65]

The ZB will continue to be raced in 2021. And while Ford did contribute to the Mustang's development costs, no guarantee it will go around again. Out of interest, does anybody know what the sales numbers are like for the 'stang?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Jack65

The ZB will continue to be raced in 2021. And while Ford did contribute to the Mustang's development costs, no guarantee it will go around again. Out of interest, does anybody know what the sales numbers are like for the 'stang?

Has nosedived compared to early numbers, but compared to the Camaro at least it's pretty well priced.

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[bluesport]

Is it time to include corvette?

https://www.caradvice.com.au/855406/...d-drive-is-go/

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Is it time to include corvette?

https://www.caradvice.com.au/855406/...d-drive-is-go/

Corvette belongs in GT3 and GTE.




Calling that a touring car would be REALLY stretching, it's much closer to a Ferrari or McLaren these days.

[Sandgroper]

One make series no thanks !

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Corvette belongs in GT3 and GTE.




Calling that a touring car would be REALLY stretching, it's much closer to a Ferrari or McLaren these days.

Porsche used run with the tourers.

[Casper]

A mid engined car in SC? that will work well but of course you were joking.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Casper

A mid engined car in SC? that will work well but of course you were joking.

It would be fun watching them sort out the parity.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by bluesport

It would be fun watching them sort out the parity.

Ford is very good at bringing a gun to a knife fight too.