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Old 13 Mar 2020, 21:39 (Ref:3964024)   #76
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 22:32 (Ref:3964040)   #77
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I guess its at times like this that the cold realisation at Liberty (and their shareholders) is that what they have actually bought of F1 - they don't own the circuits, the teams or the cars - without all of those they have no product...

Also bear in the mind that if what is reported is right - the FIA can effectively cancel the race unilaterally without any comeback if F1 cannot provide 12 cars for the race - which I believe is what effectively happened in Melbourne. So the rights holder (FOM) could have the race taken away from them by a majority of the teams pulling out of the race - even if FOM wanted to run it, the FIA can over rule as the ultimate owner of F1.
Which in a nutshell is what Bernie was managing, and the sources of all the problems he gets blamed for as a convenient scape goat.
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 22:33 (Ref:3964041)   #78
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 22:50 (Ref:3964046)   #79
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Bernie didn’t help himself at times with his fondness for the dollar
Agreed.

However when the 'inmates in the asylum" came up with horrifically stupid rules, that was not Bernie's doing. OTWG (overtaking working group) for example, and they are now the clowns fixing the aero problems on the cars.
The FIA shills and their manufacturer buddies for the hybrid engines, during a time when they were making racing cheaper.
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 23:11 (Ref:3964053)   #80
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Yeah, Bernie can’t be blamed for everything. Even he was against DRS after all, although his ideas of shortcuts, medals and sprinklers were no better!
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Old 13 Mar 2020, 23:34 (Ref:3964064)   #81
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Old 14 Mar 2020, 00:03 (Ref:3964070)   #82
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Old 14 Mar 2020, 00:08 (Ref:3964071)   #83
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The channel 10 coverage so far, certainly leaves a lot to be desired.
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Old 14 Mar 2020, 11:45 (Ref:3964162)   #84
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So why did it take so long ??

Whoever pulled the pin would determine who has to pay for what.

As the Teams effectively pulled the pin by declaring they would not race I would assume the Victorian government is within its rights to withhold a significant percentage of the sanction fee paid for F1 to turn up.
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I reckon the homeless people around Melbourne are being well fed, all that catering going to waste.
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Old 14 Mar 2020, 21:03 (Ref:3964237)   #86
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I reckon the homeless people around Melbourne are being well fed, all that catering going to waste.
One would hope, rather than it just being thrown away.
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Old 14 Mar 2020, 21:31 (Ref:3964243)   #87
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The channel 10 coverage so far, certainly leaves a lot to be desired.
That's normal!!
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Listen, don't mention the Aussie GP!...I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it alright.So! It's all forgotten now, and let's hear no more about it.
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Listen, don't mention the Aussie GP!...I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it alright.So! It's all forgotten now, and let's hear no more about it.
That looks like a very effective face mask. Nice colour too.
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Old 15 Mar 2020, 09:37 (Ref:3964292)   #90
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Nice colour too.
Reminds me of the Leyton House March from yesteryear. Always thought that was a great looking car.
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McLaren boss Andreas Seidl, meanwhile, has remained with the 15 affected members of his team in Melbourne. So whilst Seidle did the right thing other team bosses either wanted to race - because it suited them - or busily arranged a private jet to fly senior staff out so wouldn’t have to share a plane with the public...
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McLaren boss Andreas Seidl, meanwhile, has remained with the 15 affected members of his team in Melbourne. So whilst Seidle did the right thing other team bosses either wanted to race - because it suited them - or busily arranged a private jet to fly senior staff out so wouldn’t have to share a plane with the public...
Well that is admirable and a very respectful team attitude.
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McLaren boss Andreas Seidl, meanwhile, has remained with the 15 affected members of his team in Melbourne. So whilst Seidle did the right thing other team bosses either wanted to race - because it suited them - or busily arranged a private jet to fly senior staff out so wouldn’t have to share a plane with the public...
Who did the latter?
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Ferrari clearly didn't want to race as staff started leaving the circuit before FP1 was due to start.
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Ferrari clearly didn't want to race as staff started leaving the circuit before FP1 was due to start.

As their "No. 1" driver, Vettel, had already headed for the airport (or may have even been in the air by that point), the decision had really been taken out of their hands.
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Or Ferrari didn’t want to race so Vettel went to the airport.

He’s part of the team so the actual situation probably developed together.
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Or Ferrari didn’t want to race so Vettel went to the airport.

He’s part of the team so the actual situation probably developed together.
This is the more likely scenario. Ferrari had already decided they weren't racing, and had probably notified the FIA, but had not made a public statement.
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As their "No. 1" driver, Vettel, had already headed for the airport (or may have even been in the air by that point), the decision had really been taken out of their hands.
Perhaps him and Leclerc will have equal treatment this season
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As their "No. 1" driver, Vettel, had already headed for the airport (or may have even been in the air by that point), the decision had really been taken out of their hands.
He was on the 0600 Qantas flight with Kimi
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