[BTCC] Oulton Park Rd7/8/9

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by MagicBoy

Not sure.

Rule reads as : "Cars registered for the Championship after February 28th, 2020, and/or those cars that miss one or more Championship Meetings may carry a Late Entry Ballast of up to 60kgs at the first Championship Meeting they compete in/return to, 42kg in the subsequent Championship Meeting and 30kg in the third Championship Meeting they compete in, at the sole discretion of the Administrator. The success ballast weight handicap as outlined above is applicable to these cars up to a maximum of 60kgs inclusive of the Late Entry Ballast."

Is it car that was previously registered for another driver in which case it's a different rule. Could go 60kg or 45kg.

Or - because Gow has already confirmed that their car will be running as a guest entry - they will not be carrying any ballast, will not be eligible for points in the championship and will not have their placing considered for determination of ballast carried by others.

I guess the full details of the entry will become clear when the car lines up for Qualy...

[MagicBoy]

That could get messy quickly. On that guest basis, Bushell gets to run with zero ballast at all times. He's not scoring any points so gets no ballast for a race result that doesn't count.

[RS67]

Originally Posted by redshoes

As we've said previously, expect all the usual TBL rules to go out of the window this year. They were all subject to waivers from the Championship Administrator (Gow) anyhow.

These are exceptional times, and I'm sure Gow is more than aware that exceptional measures are needed. If they stuck rigidly to the rules this year then there's a chance there may not be series at all next year.

AG announced weeks ago, that the allowable number of driver changes per car would be increased this year.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by MagicBoy

On that guest basis, Bushell gets to run with zero ballast at all times. He's not scoring any points so gets no ballast for a race result that doesn't count.

Pretty much sums up what is written in the regulations....

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Or - because Gow has already confirmed that their car will be running as a guest entry - they will not be carrying any ballast, will not be eligible for points in the championship and will not have their placing considered for determination of ballast carried by others.

I guess the full details of the entry will become clear when the car lines up for Qualy...

so if say Bushell wins as guest entry will not score any points does the 2nd place driver gets full points ?? does it mean the 2nd place driver gets also point for leading a lap even if he didn't ? what about the point for fastest lap if Bushell does it ?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

so if say Bushell wins as guest entry will not score any points does the 2nd place driver gets full points ?? does it mean the 2nd place driver gets also point for leading a lap even if he didn't ? what about the point for fastest lap if Bushell does it ?

'Guest Competitors may be permitted to make guest appearances at the sole discretion of the Administrator [..] The Administrator, as a condition of registration and entry, will always stipulate that no guest driver may score points or be awarded prize money in the Championship and that his/her Race results will not be used for the determining of weight handicap.'

'Drivers, manufacturers/constructors and teams competing in rounds of the Championship by permission of the Administrator under Commercial undertaking 6.5.4. [Guest Entry] are not eligible to score points within the Championship.'

'The Race results of any guest driver will be disregarded for the purpose of determining success ballast weight handicap. '

'Awards:
For drivers, manufacturers/constructors and entrants of cars other than Guest Competitors permitted to compete in rounds of the Championship under Commercial Undertaking 6.5.4.'

[redshoes]

https://www.barc.net/wp-content/uplo...18-08-2020.pdf
Entry list as at 18/08/20, note that this doesn't include Bushell.

Also worth noting that Matt Neal is running as #700 this weekend. The weekend will be his 700th BTCC start (in race 2?)

[porsche962fan]

weren't some rumors that Ginger doesn't have the budget to complete the season ? speaking of that BTC Racing has to be the biggest disappointment of the season so far

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by Pickles

So presumably PSA pulling what little involvement Vauxhall may have had...

As I understand it, they'll be independent this year simply because of their 'guest entry' but it seems the whole package (two cars, Plato, manufactirer status) is back next year. Well, at least that's the plan.

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

weren't some rumors that Ginger doesn't have the budget to complete the season ? speaking of that BTC Racing has to be the biggest disappointment of the season so far

Agree with you on that about BTC. Wonder what Chilton is thinking seeing the team he left and their new car being so competitive

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by Matt K

As I understand it, they'll be independent this year simply because of their 'guest entry' but it seems the whole package (two cars, Plato, manufactirer status) is back next year. Well, at least that's the plan.

They have a sponsorship agent looking for 2021 sponsors for them, which JP retweeted recently.

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[S griffin]

Plato has a contract for 2021, so it's almost certain he will be back

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Moneyseeker

They have a sponsorship agent looking for 2021 sponsors for them, which JP retweeted recently.

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That's probably standard for all teams/drivers to be continuously on the look out for new sponsorship deals.

PMR did state the following in their latest release: 'With Jason Plato confirmed for the 2021 season, as well as all existing team partners, '

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by MagicBoy

Not sure.

Rule reads as : "Cars registered for the Championship after February 28th, 2020, and/or those cars that miss one or more Championship Meetings may carry a Late Entry Ballast of up to 60kgs at the first Championship Meeting they compete in/return to, 42kg in the subsequent Championship Meeting and 30kg in the third Championship Meeting they compete in, at the sole discretion of the Administrator. The success ballast weight handicap as outlined above is applicable to these cars up to a maximum of 60kgs inclusive of the Late Entry Ballast."

Is it car that was previously registered for another driver in which case it's a different rule. Could go 60kg or 45kg.

Bushell is using the entry that was previously registered for Mat Jackson.

[S griffin]

I seem to remember Rob Huff having to have the latecomer ballast when he briefly stood in for Sonic a few years ago

[Sodemo]

I just saw 3 BTC Racing transporters on the M42 near Birmingham, I have therefore actually seen some kind of BTCC racing this year?!

Last time I saw race transporters was when I was near Dover and I saw Honda / BAR, Williams and I think McLaren all stacked up in a queue to cross the channel.

[porsche962fan]

speaking of BTC wonder why Chilton doesn't aim for the empty ex Jordan WSR drive considering his pocket

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

speaking of BTC wonder why Chilton doesn't aim for the empty ex Jordan WSR drive considering his pocket

Maybe because he saw what happened to Mat Jackson in 2018

[RS67]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

I just saw 3 BTC Racing transporters on the M42 near Birmingham, I have therefore actually seen some kind of BTCC racing this year?!

Last time I saw race transporters was when I was near Dover and I saw Honda / BAR, Williams and I think McLaren all stacked up in a queue to cross the channel.

I saw some pre-lockdown testing at Brands Hatch and this week I got to see a shakedown.

[S griffin]

The only time I recall seeing racing transporters during a weekend of racing was on the M1 back on 2004, as they were at the Super Weekend at Donny

[bella]

they're all over the place if you're on the road on the m1/m40/m6 on a thursday morning or a sunday evening.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

speaking of BTC wonder why Chilton doesn't aim for the empty ex Jordan WSR drive considering his pocket

Possibly because Mr Chilton, unlike some others, honours contracts he has signed.

I fully expect BTC to be competing at the front all season long. The FK8 failures for BTC and Dynamics at Brands were unprecedented. Possibly the only genuine use of the word unprecedented I've seen of late.

Let's see how Oulton shakes out. I'm reckoning on Ash Sutton having the Infiniti dancing, and I see Colin and Tom Oliphant troubling the podium. I suspect Dan Camm and Rory Butcher will be the best of the rest. I reckon on Oli Jackson at the sharp end too.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

I just saw 3 BTC Racing transporters on the M42 near Birmingham, I have therefore actually seen some kind of BTCC racing this year?!

Last time I saw race transporters was when I was near Dover and I saw Honda / BAR, Williams and I think McLaren all stacked up in a queue to cross the channel.

Who was winning? Sonic or Ginger Nuts?

[CarfanLUFC]

Looks like a high chance of rain at Oulton on Sunday

That could certainly mix things up.

[Nononsensecapeesh]

Originally Posted by CarfanLUFC

Looks like a high chance of rain at Oulton on Sunday

That could certainly mix things up.

An unexpected result can't be far away....