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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:04 (Ref:4002244)   #126
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Social media is trash, right? So many people don’t seem to understeer the sport. All I’m seeing is “Bottas caused the crash, burn the SC driver, stupid green flags”etc. F1 embracing social media has been a thing of beauty but it’s also opened the sport up to so many people who are there just to abuse, troll and generally be disrespectful.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:04 (Ref:4002245)   #127
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At the time Bottas said the "need safety car" line, I thought "How defeated do you have to be to be thinking like that"
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:06 (Ref:4002246)   #128
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I wouldn't be surprised if Bottas makes a similar call, if indeed Mercedes don't make it for him.
Merc will never fire Bottas, his miles off the pace of Hamilton, but good enough not to bin it and finish 2nd place. Occasionally he’s allowed to win but in general he’s not good enough to challenge him. Why would Merc want a second driver who can challenge their star man
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:08 (Ref:4002247)   #129
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Merc will never fire Bottas, his miles off the pace of Hamilton, but good enough not to bin it and finish 2nd place. Occasionally he’s allowed to win but in general he’s not good enough to challenge him. Why would Merc want a second driver who can challenge their star man
Agreed. As long as he's finishing second, they'll keep him. When he isn't second in the championship that's when they'll start shopping around.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:17 (Ref:4002250)   #130
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The Hamilton/Rosberg pairing must have been incredibly tedious to work with. No point creating that again.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:44 (Ref:4002258)   #131
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Merc will never fire Bottas, his miles off the pace of Hamilton, but good enough not to bin it and finish 2nd place. Occasionally he’s allowed to win but in general he’s not good enough to challenge him. Why would Merc want a second driver who can challenge their star man
Occasionally he is allowed to win????

Strange, because I see him with every opportunity to win, but Hamilton is just better.

I agree with the pairing though, why upset the Apple kart....at the end of the day Bottas is doing everything required of him, he brings home points and is a solid number 2 driver on talent rather than contract.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:45 (Ref:4002259)   #132
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The Hamilton/Rosberg pairing must have been incredibly tedious to work with. No point creating that again.
Same can be said for the Vettel/ Webber/ ricciardo/ max pairings. Very fiery, although I’m sure red bull would welcome a Bottas character into their team
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:53 (Ref:4002260)   #133
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The whole podium from the weekend before all crashed out. Wonder how many times that has happened in F1 history.

Grsojeans radio made me chuckle after the re-start crash, blaming the person at the front... The person who dictates the pace of restart...and he is on the GPDA!
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 18:58 (Ref:4002261)   #134
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Rosberg was with Mercedes from the beginning in 2010 and had been there for three years before Hamilton came along. I wonder if he felt he should have been their number one driver because of that?
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:30 (Ref:4002264)   #135
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Russell must bed the unluckiest driver looked like he and williams were on for points then, back to last. Agreed Bottas not looking very happy but to be honest for the money he is getting he is not performing.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:38 (Ref:4002267)   #136
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Russell must bed the unluckiest driver looked like he and williams were on for points then, back to last. Agreed Bottas not looking very happy but to be honest for the money he is getting he is not performing.
When you have a team mate, who is clearly the better driver and the team is primarily setup around them, it can't be easy keeping oneself motivated, no matter how much you are getting paid.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:39 (Ref:4002268)   #137
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Russell must bed the unluckiest driver looked like he and williams were on for points then, back to last.
Eh, how exactly is racing badly and getting overtaken “unlucky?”
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:53 (Ref:4002274)   #138
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When you have a team mate, who is clearly the better driver and the team is primarily setup around them, it can't be easy keeping oneself motivated, no matter how much you are getting paid.
Hamilton managed it in 2007, Charles managed it against Vettel last year, Danny managed it against Vettel in 2015.....hell even Robert managed it against Hamilton in 2016

I actually think people are being harsh on Bottas. I think he’s doing exactly the job that Mercedes want from him....problem is he’s not doing what the fans want, to beat Lewis.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:56 (Ref:4002277)   #139
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He's not doing the job he wants to do though. He's not constantly losing out to Lewis on team orders, he knows full well that Hamilton is just better....
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Hamilton managed it in 2007, Charles managed it against Vettel last year, Danny managed it against Vettel in 2015.....hell even Robert managed it against Hamilton in 2016
Bob was a special driver though. When things went wrong he always seemed to autocorrect.
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Old 13 Sep 2020, 19:58 (Ref:4002280)   #141
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Hamilton managed it in 2007, Charles managed it against Vettel last year, Danny managed it against Vettel in 2015.....hell even Robert managed it against Hamilton in 2016

I actually think people are being harsh on Bottas. I think he’s doing exactly the job that Mercedes want from him....problem is he’s not doing what the fans want, to beat Lewis.
Bottas's has been with Mercedes since 2017.
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Bob was a special driver though. When things went wrong he always seemed to autocorrect.
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Bottas's has been with Mercedes since 2017.
Well Rosberg was with Mercedes for longer until he managed to beat Lewis.....
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He's not doing the job he wants to do though. He's not constantly losing out to Lewis on team orders, he knows full well that Hamilton is just better....
Can’t disagree with that. Problem is it doesn’t matter what version of Bottas we get Lewis just seems to be better. Must be frustrating for Bottas, especially this weekend when it seemed he was on top during Friday
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Eh, how exactly is racing badly and getting overtaken “unlucky?”
Kimi and Roman had hot tyres from doing an extra lap....Russell was racing well until that point but cold tyres v hot tyres on the restart cost him (according to teds notebook)
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Well Rosberg was with Mercedes for longer until he managed to beat Lewis.....
Robert was with Mercedes from the beginning, in 2010. Lewis joined in 2013 and won back to back WDC's in 2014 and '15. Robert won his WDC in 2016.
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Robert was with Mercedes from the beginning, in 2010. Lewis joined in 2013 and won back to back WDC's in 2014 and '15. Robert won his WDC in 2016.
So as I said......

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....this Bob bloke gets about!
Not quite. It took four years for Bob to beat Lewis, after Lewis joined Mercedes and Bottas has been with Mercedes the same amount time and still hasn't beaten Lewis.

What is Bob doing these days?
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Not quite. It took four years for Bob to beat Lewis, after Lewis joined Mercedes and Bottas has been with Mercedes the same amount time and still hasn't beaten Lewis.

What is Bob doing these days?
Still making cameos in Black Adder sketches I guess 😂
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