Bell's Banter 2021

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Think the snow has been over most of the country today .
Still , it will keep the plod busy looking for non snowy roofs .

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-roof-14347783

Oops.

Of course the penalty for lack of green approved loft insulation is probably greater.

Can one be fined for have a wife who always feels the cold? Well, cold unless she feels too hot for some reason and then opens a window ...

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Think the snow has been over most of the country today .

Did we miss it?

Had some a day or so back that did not last long. Nothing today though.

[midgetman]

We had none. Not even any frost on the cars this morning

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[gary396]

Had loads up here, especially on the Moors. Frustrating not being able to get out and about in it. Best conditions for a few years but missed so many photo opportunities due to lockdown and not being able drive to exercise. Pity but needs must in these times.

[Gerard C]

Thanks for the link, Tel. Strange titles in Wales on line, sometimes: Found hanged in woods after being suspended from work. Not a coincidence I guess, rather bad taste…

[terence]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Knowing the Nurbur to be more or less Bimmer-Land, anything from the brand is acceptable over there. I wonder about the very serious TÜV gepruft… Ze conzept of an electric Isetta sounds tempting in town. Nowadays its called a Zmart!

Porches,Gerard,are probably more in number.
Last trackway I did here I counted 32 RS GT3s,BMWs were obvious in their absence,just three in attendance.
Various companies in Germany are offering leases on GT3s,only 107000 down and 1400 per month😂

[Gerard C]

C'est un scandale! A pure shame. Blessed country fo car enthusiasts you're living in, Terence. Right now we have an interesting offer on Dacia Sandero. Need a lifelet?

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

C'est un scandale! A pure shame. Blessed country fo car enthusiasts you're living in, Terence. Right now we have an interesting offer on Dacia Sandero. Need a lifelet?

With the Renault group organisational restructuring how long will it be before Dacia get an affordable version of the A110 in their catalogue?

[Tel 911S]

https://www.metacafe.com/watch/14449..._to_eat_a_man/

Might just be me , but I found this car advert to be quite amusing .

[E.B]

Originally Posted by grantp

With the Renault group organisational restructuring how long will it be before Dacia get an affordable version of the A110 in their catalogue?

Best that would be a smoking, red hot deal!

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by grantp

How long will it be before Dacia get an affordable version of the A110 in their catalogue?

Till Carlos stays far away, everything will be improved promptly.

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by grantp

For them from the north enjoying some chilly white meteorological deposits around this time here's a video justification of the 4x4 SUV movement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqLf6NJ7MZ8

Subtitles and transcript available ....

I remember sometime back in the 90s when I had my scrapyard, my neighbour on the industrial estate was a trucking firm. We had a very heavy snowfall (for UK) probably about a foot or so, and one of his artics was stuck on the road outside my yard. I hooked up my old 74 Range Rover V8 to the artic with a chain - and tried a low-range diff-locked straight pull. No joy - all four wheels spinning. So I backed right up to the truck and took a run at it - when the chain went tight there was such a bang I thought I'd pulled the back of the Ranger off - but a glance in the mirror showed the truck following me, and a few moments later we had him on some firmer ground Hubris soon came when I decided to celebrate and charged around the industrial estate barreling through snow drifts....until a lump of snow landed on the dizzy.........


WD40 is good stuff, though

[Mike Harte]

You might not be surprised what can be used to pull trucks/lorries in emergencies. Many a time I was called out to get one of our Ford D Type 16 tonners going when they had a flat battery, and I would give them a snatch pull to start with my trusty little Hillman Imp or, later, my Escort GT. Admittedly, I cannot claim to have rescued them in the snow.

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

I remember sometime back in the 90s when I had my scrapyard, my neighbour on the industrial estate was a trucking firm. We had a very heavy snowfall (for UK) probably about a foot or so, and one of his artics was stuck on the road outside my yard. I hooked up my old 74 Range Rover V8 to the artic with a chain - and tried a low-range diff-locked straight pull. No joy - all four wheels spinning. So I backed right up to the truck and took a run at it - when the chain went tight there was such a bang I thought I'd pulled the back of the Ranger off - but a glance in the mirror showed the truck following me, and a few moments later we had him on some firmer ground Hubris soon came when I decided to celebrate and charged around the industrial estate barreling through snow drifts....until a lump of snow landed on the dizzy.........


WD40 is good stuff, though

Had a similar thing a long time ago with a Mk2 Jag . Driving along with a lot of small drifts across the road , [ the Jag was surprisingly good in snow ] . Engine stopped , lifted bonnet and engine compartment was totally full of snow .
The crossmember had been acting like a scoop & shooting all the snow upwards .
But as you say , WD40 works .

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

Had a similar thing a long time ago with a Mk2 Jag . Driving along with a lot of small drifts across the road , [ the Jag was surprisingly good in snow ] . Engine stopped , lifted bonnet and engine compartment was totally full of snow .
The crossmember had been acting like a scoop & shooting all the snow upwards .
But as you say , WD40 works .

That's an interesting point.

With some air intakes being so low that one can achieve hydro lock in a relatively small puddle what is the potential for certain designs being prone to snow blockage or, if the nearby area is warm enough but not too warm, melting snow pack inducing the equivalent of a hydro lock situation?

I would guess unlikely given the amount of winter testing that seems to be undertaken. But what if, over time, some under panels are mislaid? Is there potential of greater risk or reduced risk for some vehicles absent the undertray components?

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by E.B

Best that would be a smoking, red hot deal!

C'est ce qu'on appelle un sujet brûlant… Il semble que tes compatriotes n'aient pas saisi ce trait d'humour, Dave. Peut-être trop raffiné pour eux, surtout depuis leur indépendance!

[GORDON STREETER]

I suppose most of you would have seen this video of the 1980 Tricentrol Group 1 Championship part 1, with a good bit of footage of Brian Jones interviewing Stirling Moss on the grid at Mallory Park.
It's just as well that we have time on our hands to waste as it's a long video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZThuhr8tA Pity I can't find a part 2!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I suppose most of you would have seen this video of the 1980 Tricentrol Group 1 Championship part 1, with a good bit of footage of Brian Jones interviewing Stirling Moss on the grid at Mallory Park.
It's just as well that we have time on our hands to waste as it's a long video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZThuhr8tA Pity I can't find a part 2!

There is/was a 2nd part somewhere.or rather 2 parts of the first half of that year. Posted by Inqisitor or something?

There's also 2 parts for the '81 season which some complete joker uploaded!

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by chunterer

There's also 2 parts for the '81 season which some complete joker uploaded!

Yes I did note who put it on, it could do with a bit of colour/exposure work I could do it for you

[grantp]

Anyone keeping an eye on the America's Cup build up events?

Remarkable boats. I heard somewhere that they can sail at something like 50 knots against a 15 to 18 knot wind. Or something like that.

Just imagine if F1 could do something similar with their Aero technology and find extra speed whilst making it impossible for anyone to pass.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by grantp

Anyone keeping an eye on the America's Cup build up events?

Remarkable boats. I heard somewhere that they can sail at something like 50 knots against a 15 to 18 knot wind. Or something like that.

Just imagine if F1 could do something similar with their Aero technology and find extra speed whilst making it impossible for anyone to pass.

Not half! Love watching Sir Ben at work; they were a shambles just a few weeks ago, re-rigged the boat, re-jigged the crew, and now they have 4 straight wins, amazing. An then the oppos have the cheek to accuse us of sandbagging.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I suppose most of you would have seen this video of the 1980 Tricentrol Group 1 Championship part 1, with a good bit of footage of Brian Jones interviewing Stirling Moss on the grid at Mallory Park.
It's just as well that we have time on our hands to waste as it's a long video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZThuhr8tA Pity I can't find a part 2!

Well other than the part 1 linked I could only find BTCC 1981 parts 1&2 posted by "Chunterer" (presumably of this parish)
All good viewing of the time.

Edit: Just noticed the posts following mention this.

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by grantp

That's an interesting point.

With some air intakes being so low that one can achieve hydro lock in a relatively small puddle what is the potential for certain designs being prone to snow blockage or, if the nearby area is warm enough but not too warm, melting snow pack inducing the equivalent of a hydro lock situation?

I would guess unlikely given the amount of winter testing that seems to be undertaken. But what if, over time, some under panels are mislaid? Is there potential of greater risk or reduced risk for some vehicles absent the undertray components?

As you say , manufacturers spend a lot of time & money nowadays testing so that airflow & water/ snow ingress should not affect the running of their cars .
Have seen lots of cars with " Boy Racer " type air filters on , and most of the time , although they think they sound "better " , they will lose a lot of power because the air flow is not as good as the original design .

The same with under tray guards . If they are left off , there is a good chance that water / snow will be directed up into the engine compartment .

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by grantp

Just imagine if F1 could do something similar with their Aero technology and find extra speed whilst making it impossible for anyone to pass.

May be they already do? Hence the DRS system meaning Drag Reduction System. Good for overtaking, reducing the drag and make full profit of the draft. You can find a lot of info re draft in Nascar events, the fast cow boys having a huge know how about this.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

May be they already do? Hence the DRS system meaning Drag Reduction System. Good for overtaking, reducing the drag and make full profit of the draft. You can find a lot of info re draft in Nascar events, the fast cow boys having a huge know how about this.

I get the impression that Nascar (in particular and due to the nature of the oval races) have a feel for the way that bumper to bumper racing is somewhat beneficial in Aero terms to both cars (or, in deed, all cars in a line.)

However what if, somehow, it would be possible to create an Aero shape that acted in conjunction with local air movements to provide forward momentum? (Whilst at the same time generating a horribly messy air wake to prevent others benefiting as well)?

OK, Physics probably makes that impossible and ground level effects of air movement are not the same as wind and sails.

By comparison DRS is a very blunt tool. Just a reverse air brake really.