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20 Apr 2021, 08:28 (Ref:4046842) | #3078 | |
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Well, they're... black. And white. On a first glance look like last year's Dynamics car. Have to say I'm not a fan of the livery but more important will be how fast Cupras are.
Quite honestly I expect some kind of a step forward (maybe even a significant one) and I think it's not unrealistic to see Goff and ATS fighting for Top 10 relatively consistently. |
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20 Apr 2021, 08:48 (Ref:4046843) | #3079 | ||
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As it stands, 13 black cars out of a field of 29. Poor Tim Harvey 😂
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Saw Motorbase hint their's will be mainly black too, so could be a very colourless grid |
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20 Apr 2021, 09:02 (Ref:4046845) | #3081 | |
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It's going to make it very difficult to watch with so many similar liveries!
But, they are the best liveries HARD has ever put out I think! |
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20 Apr 2021, 09:30 (Ref:4046852) | #3082 | |
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Black is the new...black this year. For whatever reason seems to be fashionable this year and I agree, black cars tend to look great but there are way too many of them! and trying to recall most iconic BTCC liveries there aren't any black ones I think...
After all it's not the most important, is it but the grid's going to be pretty dull-looking and it'll be a mayhem for poor Tim Harvey. |
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20 Apr 2021, 11:33 (Ref:4046863) | #3084 | |
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True that! But there are not so many of them. And also a black Texaco car is heavily connected to Texaco branding, which is all about black colours and the brand itself seems 'iconic.' On this year's grid there aren't really black cars whose liveries stem from a renowned sponsor's branding and this makes them 'just another black car.' I wouldn't mind for example a Monster Energy black car, resembling Cam Waters' Supercars machine!
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As far as I can tell, we have only seen 3 livery reveals that are predominantly black, and one that is 1/3 black? Of those - they are all derived from the primary sponsor's colours: AutoBrite - White/Red on Black RoKIT - White on Black So to be expected for HARD. to use black as the base for their cars. Car Gods 54 - Black base, with different colours dependant on product. So to be expected for Ciceley to use black as the base. BMW Motorsport - Black base on their global programme. So to be expected for WSR to use black as the base. Toyota Gazoo - Red/White/Black. So to be expected for Speedworks to use a Red/White/Black livery. Do we expect teams to reject sponsor's requirements because they are the wrong colour? Why is Texaco's black a good livery, but 2021 sponsor's black a less desirable livery? |
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20 Apr 2021, 14:07 (Ref:4046882) | #3086 | ||
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I'd wished that Honda had used more of a red colour in their livery. I think their 2015 car came the closest for this.
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20 Apr 2021, 14:18 (Ref:4046885) | #3087 | |
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If Motorbase is black, Dynamics is black again, and BTC is dark grey...
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Berni Ecclestone used to insist on Blue on White on the Brabhams regardless of corporate identity! The Texaco livery - like JPS - is "iconic" - it just is |
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20 Apr 2021, 15:55 (Ref:4046903) | #3090 | |
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I don't see much wrong with the liveries on the Cupras. They did a good job IMHO. Hopefully they will get enough backing to keep developing it well enough. We'll see how good it is, especially compared to others, like the PMR Vauxhalls and the Speedworks Toyotas who are already ahead with their cars so far due to at least two years development
Anyway let's enjoying seeing the cars in their colours and look forward to a competitive season, with hopefully some surprises in store |
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20 Apr 2021, 16:50 (Ref:4046913) | #3091 | ||
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https://twitter.com/BTCC/status/1372...250434/photo/3 From the rear, white is the more dominant colour. |
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It's just the fact, Texaco or JPS black livery is iconic whereas Car Gods or AutoBrite are not and will not be and this is the end of the topic for me. Why throwing this pointless argument of teams rejecting sponsors requirements? No one suggested this and no one thinks about it. It's just a bit surprising that there are so many black (or partly black, whatever really) liveries this year. This is going to be a bit bland, that's it. My argument about Monster Energy and all these comments about Texaco or JPS stem from the fact that these brands are so recognisable that black cars with their logos would look great always. Black cars with some less known or unknown logos just don't make such an impression and are not that recognisable. The end of the topic. |
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To me there is nothing about the Texaco or JPS liveries that makes them any better (or worse) than an AutoBrite or Car Gods livery in nearly identical colours. 2020: Quote:
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When it comes to Texaco or JPS being worse or better. Well, this is your opinion, as far as I'm concerned, there is a huge difference especially as the aforementioned ones really go together with the brands. Is black/white livery part of AutoBrite's identity? Or part of HUB's? I think neither of these. This is just a scheme created by Team HARD and I'm simply not a fan of it. Well, so you say Kia or Volvo are joining? 😂😂 |
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There are some modern-day liveries that I can imagine may become 'iconic' in the future - like Tom Coronel's DHL one in WTCC/R, Monster Energy in Supercars or maybe even Laser Tools Racing. |
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I think some colours will always be iconic and the black and gold of the JPS really suited the cars at the time, so it worked well. Lotus usually came up with great liveries anyway. We'll see how well remembered these current liveries, but at the moment they look alright to me
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