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View Poll Results: Who gets it?
Max Verstappen 2 4.26%
Sergio Pérez 0 0%
Lewis Hamilton 15 31.91%
Valtteri Bottas 0 0%
Lando Norris 0 0%
Daniel Ricciardo 1 2.13%
Charles Leclerc 26 55.32%
Carlos Sainz 0 0%
Fernando Alonso 0 0%
Esteban Ocon 0 0%
Pierre Gasly 0 0%
Yuki Tsunoda 0 0%
Sebastian Vettel 0 0%
Lance Stroll 0 0%
Antonio Giovinazzi 0 0%
Kimi Räikkönen 0 0%
George Russell 1 2.13%
Nicholas Latifi 0 0%
Mick Schumacher 0 0%
Nikita Mazepin 2 4.26%
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 08:02 (Ref:4062946)   #46
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Great job by Russell on Friday and Saturday, just a shame he got that harsh penalty for what was a racing incident, if that phrase even exists anymore. Dropped back a bit on Sunday, but yet again got the most out of his car
Harsh penalty? Really?

Russell is great on one lap, qualifying and driving round by himself. 8/10 or even 9/10. Racing though is more like 3/10 at best.

One of the problems is NOT getting the most out of his car on a Sunday. Finishing a small number of seconds ahead of Latifi is damning.
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 08:10 (Ref:4062948)   #47
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George Russel seemed a pretty good race driver when in Merc.
Pleased his lack of race craft had been pointed out to me !
This should be shared to Alonso as obviously he needs guidance when he gives his opinion on drivers ability
May be something to do with Williams being effectively broke for last five years and nothing of a sustainable nature has been spent on car.
That’s the way life is
Williams has a budget that is at most 20% of the lead teams so you would not expect them to have an effective vehicle.
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 09:04 (Ref:4062951)   #48
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Exactly, the Williams doesn't seem great over a race distance, yet he's hanging in there and has just missed out on a points on a few occasions. And finishing a few seconds above Latifi is damning? Oh please! Such ridiculous high standards some people have
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 10:03 (Ref:4062963)   #49
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George Russel seemed a pretty good race driver when in.
Good point John. It was good, until he ran off the line and picked up a puncture.

Fans concentrate on the good stuff. Team Principals take more note of such unforced errors as, unfortunately, George shows us time and time again, including last weekend. Even a ‘racing incident’ carries responsibility, or lack of it. Hopefully he’s just trying too hard and can grow out of it.
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 16:13 (Ref:4062988)   #50
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Don’t worry, there are plenty of people who concentrate on the bad stuff.
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 17:35 (Ref:4062999)   #51
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gotta have balance!

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...Hopefully he’s just trying too hard and can grow out of it.
i hope this too but the difference between his quali and race performances (and despite the lack of quality of this Williams) is a bit surprising...more so given he has had close to 50 race starts.

i think just 3 points and they came from his Merc outing?

i mean i like him and want to see what he can do in a proper car and all that but Lance Stroll scored way more points while in a similarly sucky Williams car.

legitimate questions over his future i think should be emerging at this point.
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Old 24 Jul 2021, 17:36 (Ref:4063000)   #52
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Hopefully he’s just trying too hard and can grow out of it.
When you have a car like that, you have to try hard. It's not a 'growing out of it' situation at all. It's obvious that you don't share what I think is the majority view that George is pretty good. With luck, we'll see him have the chance to prove just how good he is next season.
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Yes, better get Pat O'Ward into that seat ASAP.

He's currently second in the IndyCar driver's table with 345 points, 39 points behind championship leader Alex Palou. However, Pato is only 17 points ahead of Dixon. There are now 6 races left in the season, so I think Pato has his work cut out, if he wants to get Danny Ric's drive.
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Do you think he’ll be too soft for F1?
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Do you think he’ll be too soft for F1?

A bit too early to tell but TheGreg might have something to say on that?
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When you have a car like that, you have to try hard. It's not a 'growing out of it' situation at all. It's obvious that you don't share what I think is the majority view that George is pretty good. With luck, we'll see him have the chance to prove just how good he is next season.
It’s nowhere near that simple. I rate him highly as a driver. The jury is out on his racing ability for me, and that’s an opinion formed before he got to F1, and I know I’m not the only one in the paddock who thinks that.
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He's currently second in the IndyCar driver's table with 345 points, 39 points behind championship leader Alex Palou. However, Pato is only 17 points ahead of Dixon. There are now 6 races left in the season, so I think Pato has his work cut out, if he wants to get Danny Ric's drive.
I didn’t suggest it will be anytime in the immediate future, but I’m sure Zak will have him in the F1 car soon to test.

Probably already has behind close doors in fact.
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I didn’t suggest it will be anytime in the immediate future, but I’m sure Zak will have him in the F1 car soon to test.

Probably already has behind close doors in fact.

I was in responding to Skam85's post #31, which says: ''Yes, better get Pat O'Ward into that seat ASAP.''
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I was in responding to Skam85's post #31, which says: ''Yes, better get Pat O'Ward into that seat ASAP.''
Yes he was being sarcastic about my point that Ricc is going to be out unless he improves massively.
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I didn’t suggest it will be anytime in the immediate future, but I’m sure Zak will have him in the F1 car soon to test.

Probably already has behind close doors in fact.
Zak Brown promised Pato an F1 test some time ago if he was to win an Indycar race this year for the Arrows McLaren SP squad..... Brown subsequently confirmed that the team was honouring its promise. It is to happen at the post season tests in December.

Funny thing was Danny was overjoyed about it....
in fact both Lando and Danny were happy to see O'Ward get a chance to take over driving duties at the end of the year.

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“I’m celebrating!” he added, making it plain that his comments were characteristically tongue in cheek. “I don’t want to do the last test anyway, so I’m looking forward to it."
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