Picture Puzzles

[rbs]

1798 PM sent.

[bauble]

How are you on your history of JM Fangio.
Which of these cars did he not race?

[Oldtony]

Re 1797.
What is the history of that particular Humpy?
The 05 number came into being well after that model was regularly raced, even after the A30 based unit in which PB gained his reputation.
Humpy's were not part of his background in my recollection.

EB is based in Victoria so may have more background on it than us non Mexicans.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Oldtony

Re 1797.
What is the history of that particular Humpy?
The 05 number came into being well after that model was regularly raced, even after the A30 based unit in which PB gained his reputation.
Humpy's were not part of his background in my recollection.

EB is based in Victoria so may have more background on it than us non Mexicans.

He certainly did not have a huge history of racing "Humpy" Holden. What I do know is that he obtained his CAMS licence in one though. Apparently he owned a few in his youth, before he raced legitimately.... a legacy of his days watching / following anything to do with Motor Racing and the fact Humpy's featured strongly. All the greats at that time etc. Basically he fell in love with them. My understanding was that living in Hurstbridge, what was then a rural area outside Melbourne, and Brocky admitted admits to doing a lot of "unofficial motorkhanas" around Hurstbridge in his wild youth and that required a steady supply of FXs. He would hot them up, although I think that as more stick radial tyres and big rims on.

As mentioned I know that he got his CAMS licence doing an official Motorkhana (driving a Humpy) back in the day when you could just do an observed run to get your provisional X plate. I believe it was the only official Motorkhana he ever did.
That particular car Bauble has snapped is but a re-creation and was constructed this millennium. Dont take this as gospel but my feeling is this car was created primarily to run at the Goodwood Revival. A local noted motorsport benefactor and owner of a large crash repair business in Melbourne (Phil Munday) also shares a love of Humpy Holdens and had a number of body shells collected because he could. One of those shells became the car photographed.

In between it had an Ian Tate (Ian used to build my engines for me) engine built and installed. Being a Goodwood special not many of the oily bits are as original in period.

Apparently Goodwood regs allow overboring etc. Anyway it was built so as not to look silly or embarrassing on track if you get my drift. Yes it has period triple SU's and cam, but a few modern touches like Mitsubishi rods.... Oh and Bob will be happy it has a Vauxhall (steel) crank!

Drive train consists of a Muncie box as opposed to the original three on the tree, and brakes are discs on the front and IIRC rear brakes are from a 70s Torana racecar of Brock's.

The (real) colour has no historical significance other than it was the colour Brocky had used in a watercolour painting of a Humpy he had done once. He called it Gum Leaf green!

As OT hinted I guess the car is reality is more a Brock dream / fantasy than one based on fact or his career.

Again as OT said the 05 number is a much later than Humpy era.... being something he first used on his Torana in the ATCC at Sandown in 1975. Brocky was very much into road safety initiatives and the #05 he made so famous from the mid seventies onwards related to the 0.05% blood alcohol driving limit in Victoria.

[bauble]

Re 1797.
What is the history of that particular Humpy?

Serves you right for asking.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by bauble

Serves you right for asking.

Just trying to 'edumacate' you Northerners about fings from darn sarf!
Giving you bits of obscure trivia that no one (other than rbs) would know, for your pub trivia question nights.

[Oldtony]

Originally Posted by E.B

Just trying to 'edumacate' you Northerners about fings from darn sarf!
Giving you bits of obscure trivia that no one (other than rbs) would know, for your pub trivia question nights.

Thanks for the guidance on the building of a "Goodwood Special" EB.
Guess there is a whole motoring trivia competition setting in things like the Geoghan/Myer battles, Repco and Waggott heads and even the variations in Red & grey motors that would be totally foreign in a UK pub.
Sorry for going Off Topic Baub

[bauble]

Sorry for going Off Topic Baub

Anyone who uses a Vanwall as a logo ...! Well!

Sorry for going Off Topic Baub

I blame EB, bu then I always do.

Q1, Why would you give this man a lathe?
Q2, Why is this chap always in front?
Q3, Why is he always in a stew?
Q4, How does he keep so cool?
Q5, Let's have a chorus of "Roll out the Barrel"
Q5, Never by this one a beer?

[bauble]

Not much joy on 1802, it seems people have never heard of Juan Manuel Fangio, one of the three greatest drivers of all time.
Various cars are depicted:
In order they are,

BRM
Alfa Romeo,
Maserati
Lancia
Ferrari
Cooper Bristol.

This should help.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by E.B

Just trying to 'edumacate' you Northerners about fings from darn sarf!
Giving you bits of obscure trivia that no one (other than rbs) would know, for your pub trivia question nights.

Re the list about JM Fangio, I find a Gordini is missing. Just to say…

[bauble]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Re the list about JM Fangio, I find a Gordini is missing. Just to say…

Indeed Gerard, winning the Marseilles Grand Prix in 1949 in a Simca Gordini.

[bauble]

So you know your Formula 1 circuits do you?

1 Lies Rot
2 Lets use no racers
3 Ran Motel
4 Sorting ale
5 Nigh a rung or
6 Or mole cant

I wonder if you can find your way to each one.

[lotustwincam]

1808

I think I know these, all except the Volvo!

Volvo Casserole??

[bauble]

Originally Posted by lotustwincam

1808

I think I know these, all except the Volvo!

Volvo Casserole??

What vegetables might you put in your casserole?

[Gerard C]

Casserolle? You said Casserole for this wonderful PV 544 (444 had a two piece windshield)! If you like to spot design influence, just have a glance to Simca Vedette "dos rond", inspired from a Ford, and compare Volvo 544/ Peugeot 203 and Volvo Amazon aka 121/122 and Pug 403. In France, after WWII, everything coming from the US was hype. Like chewing-gum but not only!


Tu vois Dave EB, moi aussi je fais mon poseur! Tu te souviens de notre proverbe, je suppose: "la culture c'est comme la confiture, moins on en a et plus on l'étale!!

[Gerard C]

Q4, How does he keep so cool? Because he's driving the wind of change, Zephyr for instance…

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Q4, How does he keep so cool? Because he's driving the wind of change, Zephyr for instance…

But if you look closely you'll see it isn't a Zephyr, is it Baub???

[bauble]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

But if you look closely you'll see it isn't a Zephyr, is it Baub???

The full name is Zodiac Zephyr. I have this on good authority from a previous respondent, after I had failed to notice the Zodiac on the bonnet.

I venture to suggest I scrape by in the 'spare my blushes' department.

No body good at anagrams then?

[E.B]

Originally Posted by bauble

No body good at anagrams then?

Useless would be a better word to describe my anagram skills, though I will accept 'stupido'.... I keep looking at them thinking that will be so and so but they dont work out. Not even one.

Edit: Make that one.... I just got #1.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by E.B

Useless would be a better word to describe my anagram skills, though I will accept 'stupido'.... I keep looking at them thinking that will be so and so but they dont work out. Not even one.

Edit: Make that one.... I just got #1.

Si senor. No1 is the simplest, but most others are not too difficult, however, (Gerard) No2 is French so maybe this will help. Oui?

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by bauble

The full name is Zodiac Zephyr. I have this on good authority from a previous respondent, after I had failed to notice the Zodiac on the bonnet.

I venture to suggest I scrape by in the 'spare my blushes' department.

No body good at anagrams then?

Actually Baub, in your defence (oh no! What is happening,
? I'm defending baub)it was actually a Zephyr Zodiac. The Zodiac was the top-end luxury model of the Zephyr range...

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by E.B

I keep looking at them thinking that will be so and so but they dont work out. Not even one.

I keep tryin' finding what is French in pic #2 but fail to recognize the car itself!



Quant a la PV 544, mon éducation en Latin traduit volvo par "je roule" mais quant a trouver une analogie avec un pot au feu……… ou même une guitare, un trombonne ou une cornemuse…

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

I keep tryin' finding what is French in pic #2 but fail to recognize the car itself!

I think the French car pic #2 might be your trouble Gerry..... I think that clue refers to question#2 in post 1812... its about circuits. Even knowing it to be a French circuit (used by F1) didnt help me.

[bauble]

Which is the odd-one-out?

[Gerard C]

La 203? Pic #5, four cylinder.