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14 Jan 2022, 09:28 (Ref:4093691) | #54 | |
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I feel like the FAQs here need a new entry - understanding Adam43s posts.
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I agree, Masi seemed to have lost the plot by the end of it. He seemed not to be able to take control of a situation and was letting team bosses influence his calls
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14 Jan 2022, 11:03 (Ref:4093714) | #58 | ||
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The irony of this is that because the result did not go their way, Mercedes are protesting on the way the final laps were handled becuase not finishing under the safety car didn't go in their favour. I believe they were also going to bring the Spa race result into their protest over Masi, when he did run and finish the race under the safety car, which they believe compromised LH's result! To be honest, I am tired of the almost hysterical reaction we have had from TW, if the roles were reversed they would have banked the win with no thought of RBR and MV. As Murray Walker said, F1 is IF backwards and The Race website have done some excellent analsys of the season as a whole and when the opportunitues that led to them ending up on joint points were won and lost, and Jolyn Palmer had done an excellent video on the last lap which show that actually Hamilton did not defend the move because he was expecting it come to later in the lap, so Max caught Lewis slightly napping and by then it was too late. |
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If you want to apportion hysteria to anyone, look at the way Red Bull handled Silverstone and Saudi....THAT was hysteria, and it didnt cost them a championship. |
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“We deeply believe that in Formula 1 – the pinnacle of motor racing, one of the most important sports in the world – justice is being done. So my soul and my heart cries with every bone that this should have been judged in the right way. " or Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff admits that the squad may never overcome the "pain" caused by the outcome of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix." |
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Toto has stated that he feels the team was wronged - correct and not hysterical Toto has stated its a painful loss that they may not overcome - again not hysterical, just stating a feeling. Contrast that with the likes of Horner, Marko, Max after Silverstone and Saudi and you see hysteria. |
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14 Jan 2022, 13:16 (Ref:4093734) | #62 | ||
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Of course its a painful loss, having an entire 12 months work taken away from you in a split second decision after dominating the last race. You can level the same accusation you are using at Red Bull and horner who won for years, and yet their comments at times this year have been far more hysterical than anything you level at Toto. |
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I am sorry to jump into this. Maybe hysterical is only slightly too much. Maybe melodramatic or histrionic might fit better. But I think whatever Toto is saying is much closer to hysterical than not! I find his comments hysterically funny!
During races when they do their obligatory shot of Toto deep in the back of the garage, they are looking to get those shots of him being emotional. Fits pumps, shouting, throwing headsets, etc. But he typically does seem to cool down. We are weeks past the event. He clearly is still quite upset. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised to see language like this from him. Richard |
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14 Jan 2022, 15:48 (Ref:4093749) | #65 | |
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Budkowski was in line for the race directors job after Charlie. This didn't happen because he went to Renault.
Budkowski has now left Alpine, and Masi has disappeared from FIA Org charts. |
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14 Jan 2022, 23:43 (Ref:4093800) | #67 | ||
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While this is all a load of whatsit. I see Hamilton is getting his P45 and Vettel is going to replace him.
I’m up for that. Vettel is my favorite and it would be great to see. While I’m flippant in a lot of things in this thread (most, maybe all so far) that last sentence is 100% genuine. |
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15 Jan 2022, 12:39 (Ref:4093840) | #68 | |
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I do hope Lulu does retire, for both the sport and his sakes. We need to move on and have new blood and Lewis needs to get a real life.
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I hope he does what he wants. The sport will be poorer if we lose his talent.
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If 2021 proved anything, it was the doubters wrong, those who said Lewis only won because he was in the best car. In a car comparable, and slower than the red bull at times he matched and had Max beat all for but 1 lap. Life in the old dog yet and proves how good he is to be going up against the best of the young blood |
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Hamilton will still be the one to beat despite no longer being champ. Especially as he should have been champ in 2021. I wouldn’t want to bet against him yet
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This has partly been stoked out of Hamilton's non-additions to social media. It appears to be conjecture. I would've thought he'd be determined to return and still beat Verstappen. It would be worse to go out like this. However, he will have his own decision-making.
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"I really hope we see him again. It would be a disgrace for the whole of F1 if the best driver decided to retire because of outrageous decisions." when asked about Lewis. |
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Just my opinion but I see F1 as a 'sport' in the sense that it is competition between teams and the WDC run to a set of rules that govern the competitive aspect and should be used to ensure fair and just competition. The sport is expensive and therefore run as a business. That Mercedes have conducted their business aspect in a very efficient way that has allowed them to dominate in a similar way to which they dominated the competition in the 1950's is to their credit and has nothing to do with the events over the final laps at Abu Dhabi. When you you bring subjective opinion about their success into evaluating the feelings of their manager expressed about issues that may be ethical/moral/justice/equity/sporting or fairness you may be considered by some as saying 'you've had your share, buzz off its somebody else's turn regardless of whether its fair/just/according to the rules/sorting/competition etc Winning in sport, at all 'costs' (any means regardless of the rules or fairness and justice in the competition) is an affront to the sense of 'sport' or 'competition' between individuals or teams. It makes the the whole sporting aspect pointless and a waste of time and energy. There is no point in participating if the basic principles of what is respectful competition is abandoned. Example If a football match is so ridden with penalties, foul play, physical abuse and reduced to little more than a high scoring shootout for 80 minutes the result becomes meaningless. Winning athletics on steroids, or with a secret mechanical assist, or watching one completely dominant team score at will for 80 minutes isn't interesting or entertaining. They are efficient and the better team. But itis not worth watching. We had an entertaining season of GP racing right up to the last lap. But having the race director set up a last lap that was completely lop sided and unjust to the driver who had dominated the previous laps of the race to that point virtually denied a chance at competing with the other driver on an equal basis over that final lap is an indictment against the organisers of the competition. Not Mercedes, not red Bull, not Max or Hamilton. But the FIA. Its not about whether Max ids a worthy champion, or whether Mercedes and Hamilton have had enough titles, otr whether awarding Max the title is good for the sport. All those things are irrelevant to the result of what happened on the last lap. It shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't have been allowed to happen. That's the problem Michael Masi created. |
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The predicted scenario by most, in the event of sudden Hamilton retirement, is Ocon to Mercedes and Piastri to Alpine. That seems logical. It's motor racing weird stuff happens, and Wolff said he welcomes competition from Red Bull. Many F1 fans are pleased with the WDC result and have no concerns abut minor safety procedural anomalies. |
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