BTCC Round Six, Knockhill 30-31 Jul, Races 16,17&18 - Page 6

Mike Harte · 31 Jul 2022, 19:15 (Ref:4121241)

I found that I have just watched 3 highly entertaining races. To my simple mind, it doesn't require multiple passes, although they are good as well, just watching the race craft of skilled drivers just maintaining their race places can be quite exhilarating when they are driving at 10/10ths, and this was displayed by a number of the drivers this afternoon.

If I had paid to go and see that I would have considered my money very well spent.

GT6 · 31 Jul 2022, 19:47 (Ref:4121253)

Three good races as usual BTCC people moan but i think the new format/cards are working well

**Aysedasi** · 31 Jul 2022, 20:57 (Ref:4121271)

I only saw race 2 which was enjoyable. I assume 'track limits' have no application though in the BTCC? I don't remember which corner it was but they might as well move the rumble strip over about 3 yards to the right as the corner is no longer a corner really.....

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 21:14 (Ref:4121273)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

I only saw race 2 which was enjoyable. I assume 'track limits' have no application though in the BTCC? I don't remember which corner it was but they might as well move the rumble strip over about 3 yards to the right as the corner is no longer a corner really.....

If you made BTCC drivers follow the generally accepted standards of circuit racing in every other series - BTCC 'fans' would say it was boring.

InYourMirrors45 · 31 Jul 2022, 21:41 (Ref:4121284)

BTC Look bang in trouble and the problem isn’t one within their control...

tux · 31 Jul 2022, 21:48 (Ref:4121286)

What’s the issue?

pimmy · 31 Jul 2022, 22:06 (Ref:4121288)

Good day's racing today. Race 1 was brilliant, plenty of movement in the championship too.

**Aysedasi** · 1 Aug 2022, 06:43 (Ref:4121319)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

If you made BTCC drivers follow the generally accepted standards of circuit racing in every other series - BTCC 'fans' would say it was boring.

Hmm, probably. I guess I'd just like to see some attempt to actually drive on the circuit.......

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the race, but it doesn't grab me much any more - not like it did when I watched most of the races back in the mid-late 80's.

VIVA GT · 1 Aug 2022, 06:49 (Ref:4121321)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Hmm, probably. I guess I'd just like to see some attempt to actually drive on the circuit.......

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the race, but it doesn't grab me much any more - not like it did when I watched most of the races back in the mid-late 80's.

Talking of the racing 'back in the day' I did enjoy the banter between Tim Harvey & John Clelland with Steve Rider.

crmalcolm · 1 Aug 2022, 06:50 (Ref:4121322)

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Originally Posted by InYourMirrors45

BTC Look bang in trouble and the problem isn’t one within their control...

On or off track? There are rumours circulating about troubles for both.

S griffin · 1 Aug 2022, 07:12 (Ref:4121324)

That was a great day of racing

Hill really looked on it, he deserved that win in R1. Certainly he's a charger, although he did show he's a little rough around the edges.

Sutton finally got his first win of the year, another great display by him. Turkington picked up some good points to take the lead in the title race. Very canny of him to let Hill through in the 3rd race. Tingram was doing quite well until that off in R3. Great recovery to 12th though, that could be crucial at the end of the year

Good drive by Patterson to get points in R2, his best drive of the season. Shame he had to pull in in R3 due to the meatball flag. Lloyd did not seem comfortable in his car this weekend. A big change from the last round at Croft

AnnoyedMoose · 1 Aug 2022, 08:51 (Ref:4121338)

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Originally Posted by tux

What’s the issue?

Going by the interview with Cook it would appear to be the engine but, given that they are saying they have everything else perfected on the car, I don't understand why they aren't the top TOCA engined cars at every race then.

Or perhaps I don't understand how the balancing works.

Evantra · 1 Aug 2022, 09:00 (Ref:4121339)

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Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Talking of the racing 'back in the day' I did enjoy the banter between Tim Harvey & John Clelland with Steve Rider.

Yes, to me it seemed like Tim was having a good laugh but Cleland still couldn't stand him! Maybe it was just me, but very funny!

Millvi · 1 Aug 2022, 10:56 (Ref:4121358)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

On or off track? There are rumours circulating about troubles for both.

The Rich Energy rumours after the BSB announcements? Or some additional rumours?

I recall Jade Edwards appealing for more sponsors but I didn’t see enough of her car to see if she’d added any new logos.

S griffin · 1 Aug 2022, 11:15 (Ref:4121360)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

That was a great day of racing

Hill really looked on it, he deserved that win in R1. Certainly he's a charger, although he did show he's a little rough around the edges.

Sutton finally got his first win of the year, another great display by him. Turkington picked up some good points to take the lead in the title race. Very canny of him to let Hill through in the 3rd race. Tingram was doing quite well until that off in R3. Great recovery to 12th though, that could be crucial at the end of the year

Good drive by Patterson to get points in R2, his best drive of the season. Shame he had to pull in in R3 due to the meatball flag. Lloyd did not seem comfortable in his car this weekend. A big change from the last round at Croft

Forgot to say well done to George Gamble. He’s really taken to the BTCC like a duck to water and proves that you can beat Morgan in his team. He thoroughly deserved that win after a controlled drive

Evantra · 1 Aug 2022, 11:15 (Ref:4121361)

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Originally Posted by Millvi

I recall Jade Edwards appealing for more sponsors but I didn’t see enough of her car to see if she’d added any new logos.

I think the windscreen strip at least was different, but existing PHSC (PSHC? PCSH?) branding was still there.

Evantra · 1 Aug 2022, 11:16 (Ref:4121362)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

after a controlled drive

If only the owners of that house could say the same!

Akrapovic · 1 Aug 2022, 12:05 (Ref:4121381)

Can I just say Jonny Palmer did an outstanding job in the comms box given the extremely short notice he had to fill in.

AnnoyedMoose · 1 Aug 2022, 13:31 (Ref:4121391)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Can I just say Jonny Palmer did an outstanding job in the comms box given the extremely short notice he had to fill in.

I thought he did great as well. Shame about the "fans" on the BTCC FB pages who can't comprehend how difficult is was for him. So he said Max rather than Tom a few times, big deal. Tim gets names wrong all the time.

Evantra · 1 Aug 2022, 13:45 (Ref:4121395)

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Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

I thought he did great as well. Shame about the "fans" on the BTCC FB pages who can't comprehend how difficult is was for him. So he said Max rather than Tom a few times, big deal. Tim gets names wrong all the time.

Obviously the BTCC's not completely new to him, but think how many names and liveries he had to learn doing all the support races. Must've been around 100 entries across the weekend (including the 76 year old in the Porsches!)

Why Tim didn't correct him on Chilton after the fourth time, I don't know.

S griffin · 1 Aug 2022, 15:37 (Ref:4121412)

I thought he did a good job, although him keeping on calling Tom Chilton Max, got very frustrating after a while. Almost as if he was doing it deliberately

redshoes · 1 Aug 2022, 16:29 (Ref:4121416)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Why Tim didn't correct him on Chilton after the fourth time, I don't know.

You're assuming Tim actually noticed it. There's so much going on in the comms box looking at the different timing screens, video screen, etc, that I'd imagine they are not listening intently to every last word each other says.

**Aysedasi** · 1 Aug 2022, 17:58 (Ref:4121426)

I'm biased of course, but Jonny is an excellent commentator. As long as he doesn't start talking about Tom Verstappen.....

sceptic · 1 Aug 2022, 19:12 (Ref:4121439)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Obviously the BTCC's not completely new to him, but think how many names and liveries he had to learn doing all the support races. Must've been around 100 entries across the weekend (including the 76 year old in the Porsches!)

133.

Ironically the 76-year-old in the Porsches was a driver Jonny Palmer would have known well already.

Craner Curves · 1 Aug 2022, 20:09 (Ref:4121448)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Why Tim didn't correct him on Chilton after the fourth time, I don't know.

Tim was too busy looking for any potential concertina effects at the hairpin.

The commentary was fine, it's more the lack of good replays that disappointed me this weekend.

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