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Old 22 Dec 2022, 15:53 (Ref:4137874)   #876
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poor Dan, from championship winning team to the back of the grid team, Hyundai seat prices must have gone up or what ?
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Old 22 Dec 2022, 15:57 (Ref:4137875)   #877
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poor Dan, from championship winning team to the back of the grid team, Hyundai seat prices must have gone up or what ?
I think he was struggling with the current price as it was.
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Old 22 Dec 2022, 16:00 (Ref:4137876)   #878
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poor Dan, from championship winning team to the back of the grid team, Hyundai seat prices must have gone up or what ?
He's said on his socials that the 2023 Excelr8 price was out of his reach.
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Old 22 Dec 2022, 16:07 (Ref:4137878)   #879
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poor Dan, from championship winning team to the back of the grid team, Hyundai seat prices must have gone up or what ?
Looking at recent results, it still looks like a better position than his 2021 seat. (HARD. finished ahead of PMR in both Teams' and Independent Teams' in 2022 )
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Old 22 Dec 2022, 19:29 (Ref:4137897)   #880
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Looking at recent results, it still looks like a better position than his 2021 seat. (HARD. finished ahead of PMR in both Teams' and Independent Teams' in 2022 )
Hush, don't you know the internet is no place for facts! Can we please get back to slagging off HARD and Dan's pen?
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 07:44 (Ref:4137927)   #881
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The usual reason behind Hard's troubles is the cheap seats mean corners have to be cut. Now if Dan takes the same level of budget from 2022 to Hard for 2023, it could make a huge difference. Add in the new engineer who is taking a fresh look at the Cupras over the winter and we could see a change in form for the squad.

The downside to the stable set of rules and the BoP is that there is very little between each of the cars, so budget then plays a massive roll. Reliability issues kills weekends and stifles any championship hopes. Trying to re-use certain parts (brakes, tyres, etc) means you will be a few tenths off which is now the difference between the front and 20th.
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 07:49 (Ref:4137928)   #882
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2023 TBL Team Car Driver Status Jack Sears
EXCELR8-1Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.comHyundai i30 Fastback N PerformanceIngram Confirmed in press release Inel.
EXCELR8-2Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.comHyundai i30 Fastback N PerformanceChilton Confirmed in press release Inel.
EXCELR8-3Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.comHyundai i30 Fastback N Performance?????????
EXCELR8-4Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 TradePriceCars.comHyundai i30 Fastback N PerformanceHalsteadConfirmed in press releaseElig.
Team Dynamics-1Halfords/Cataclean?Civic?Shedden?Talked about next year with the teamInel.
Team Dynamics-2Halfords/Cataclean?Civic?Rowbottom?Talked about next year with the teamInel.
Aiden Moffat-1Aiden Moffat Racing???Moffat?Infiniti described as being end of life by the teamInel.
Aiden Moffat-2Aiden Moffat Racing??????Infiniti described as being end of life by the team???
Motorbase-1NAPA RacingFocus?SuttonConfirmed as 3-year deal in press release, talk of new build carInel.
Motorbase-2NAPA RacingFocus?CammishConfirmed as 3-year deal in press release, talk of new build carInel.
Motorbase-3MotorbaseFocus?Osborne?Talked about looking forward to next year with the teamElig.
Motorbase-4MotorbaseFocus????  
HARD.-1HARD.Cupra León Taylor-SmithConfirmed as multi-year in press releaseInel.
HARD.-2HARD.Cupra LeónThompsonConfirmed in press releaseInel.
HARD.-3HARD.Cupra LeónPattersonConfirmed in press releaseElig.
HARD.-4HARD.Cupra LeónLloydConfirmed in press releaseInel.
Speedworks-1Toyota Gazoo Racing UK?Corolla?Butcher?Talked about wanting another year with the teamInel.
Speedworks-2Toyota Gazoo Racing UK?Corolla??????????
Speedworks-3Toyota Gazoo Racing UK?Corolla??????????
WSR-1Team BMW/Ciceley Commercials?BMW 330e M SportMorganConfirmed in press releaseInel.
WSR-2Team BMW?BMW 330e M SportTurkington?Confirmed entry in press releaseInel.
WSR-3MB MotorsportBMW 330e M SportHillConfirmed in press releaseInel.
WSR-4MB Motorsport?BMW 330e M SportJelley?MB talked about a 2-car entry for 2023 – WSR confirmed as a 4-car entryInel.
PMR-1PMRAstra?Hand Confirmed as multi-year in press release Elig.
PMR-2PMRAstra????  
BTC-1Rich Energy BTC Racing?Civic???? Reported as considering a new build???
BTC-2Rich Energy BTC Racing?Civic???? Reported as considering a new build???
BTC-3Rich Energy BTC Racing?Civic???? Reported as considering a new build???
Boardley-1??????Boardley?Has described 2022 as a sabbaticalElig.
TOCA-1Not allocated    
TOCA-2Not allocated    
TOCA-3Not allocated    
???Graves Motorsport????Max Coates? Outlined plans for an entry in 2021Elig.
???Parker Motorsport?Alfa Giulia????Press release states a planned return after hybrid is introduced???
???Parker Motorsport?Alfa Giulia????Press release states a planned return after hybrid is introduced???
???Bert Taylor Racing???????Talked about getting a TBL for 2023???
?????????Proctor?Has described 2022 as a sabbatical Inel.
?????????Smelt?Has described 2022 as a sabbatical Elig.
?????????Hamilton?Talked about being in a car for 2023 Inel.
???VolvoKiaT.Harvey Rumoured in threads every year, has to be true one day Inel.
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 08:39 (Ref:4137932)   #883
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Anyone has any idea or heard rumours about what Gamble is up to next year? Honestly, after such a rookie campaign it'd be a huge shame to lose him.
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 12:04 (Ref:4137946)   #884
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The usual reason behind Hard's troubles is the cheap seats mean corners have to be cut. Now if Dan takes the same level of budget from 2022 to Hard for 2023, it could make a huge difference. Add in the new engineer who is taking a fresh look at the Cupras over the winter and we could see a change in form for the squad.

The downside to the stable set of rules and the BoP is that there is very little between each of the cars, so budget then plays a massive roll. Reliability issues kills weekends and stifles any championship hopes. Trying to re-use certain parts (brakes, tyres, etc) means you will be a few tenths off which is now the difference between the front and 20th.
I think that's a fair summary antnee. Personally, I think Dan could do well especially if he is bringing a bigger budget then others. The car has a lot of openwork and with some funds, some good drivers and some good engineers there's no reason it can't do well. The first is always a problem, I think drivers wise Hard have got 3 good ones so far, and they have recruited well on the engineer front so far
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 13:43 (Ref:4137954)   #885
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Anyone has any idea or heard rumours about what Gamble is up to next year? Honestly, after such a rookie campaign it'd be a huge shame to lose him.

With Cicely out, it will be interesting to see if any can pick him up. As you say it would be a shame to lose him, as he is a race winner
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 14:25 (Ref:4137963)   #886
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Anyone has any idea or heard rumours about what Gamble is up to next year? Honestly, after such a rookie campaign it'd be a huge shame to lose him.
A lot of teams were very impressed with him last year so he certainly isn’t short of admirers. Personally would like to see him at WSR but I think perhaps Speedworks or Motorbase would be more likely.
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 15:51 (Ref:4137972)   #887
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Yeah, the seat at WSR would be awesome but with Morgan and Hill confirmed there, probably there's no space for Gamble. I guess Turkington and Jelley will remain with WSR.
I'd say Speedworks is probably most likely but of course the most important aspect is money.
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Old 23 Dec 2022, 16:04 (Ref:4137977)   #888
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Has he done much FWD racing?
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Old 24 Dec 2022, 09:17 (Ref:4138052)   #889
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Has he done much FWD racing?
Looks like he has only driven RWD during his career. But I'm sure he will adapt to FWD
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Old 24 Dec 2022, 15:48 (Ref:4138102)   #890
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Personally glad to see Dan remain on the grid. His budget has dictated his seat but a SEAT is a SEAT none the less (yes im aware its a "Cupra" jn badging)
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A lot of teams were very impressed with him last year so he certainly isn’t short of admirers. Personally would like to see him at WSR but I think perhaps Speedworks or Motorbase would be more likely.
Butcher , Rowbottom , Gamble. ……
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Old 26 Dec 2022, 13:57 (Ref:4138232)   #892
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At Speedworks? That would be a strong trio. But a large amount of sponsorship leaving Dynamics….

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Old 26 Dec 2022, 14:51 (Ref:4138237)   #893
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Wasn't Hamilton in line for the 3rd Corolla last year that never happened? And if the seats at Hard are filling up...

A couple weeks ago-ish saw they were doing a big corporate event with Toyota and Butcher, which is hopefully a good sign the relationship will continue (of course nothing to say the contract hasn't ended since then!)
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Old 26 Dec 2022, 16:34 (Ref:4138242)   #894
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Just started watching the BTCC review DVD today. The first round at Donington seems like it was in another season than 2022
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Old 26 Dec 2022, 22:27 (Ref:4138259)   #895
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Wasn't Hamilton in line for the 3rd Corolla last year that never happened? And if the seats at Hard are filling up...

A couple weeks ago-ish saw they were doing a big corporate event with Toyota and Butcher, which is hopefully a good sign the relationship will continue (of course nothing to say the contract hasn't ended since then!)
Yeah couldn’t get enough funds together so had to go for the cheaper Hard option, so unless he’s got more backers I can’t see him being at Speedworks. A Butcher, Rowbo, Gamble line-up would be a stronger combo.
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Old 27 Dec 2022, 00:06 (Ref:4138263)   #896
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Just started watching the BTCC review DVD today. The first round at Donington seems like it was in another season than 2022
yes , that was almost a super touring era race
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Old 29 Dec 2022, 14:53 (Ref:4138424)   #898
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Seats seem to filling quite quickly this year, assuming as seems to be expected that
Turkington
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All stay with their current teams there is probably only about 8 seats left already.
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Seats seem to filling quite quickly this year, assuming as seems to be expected that
Turkington
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Jackson
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Rowbottom

All stay with their current teams there is probably only about 8 seats left already.
I wonder what Dynamics' next move will be. The FK8 was completely out-developed by the Hyundai and Toyota this season. Shedden got results in that car that it really shouldn't have been able for but Rowbottom was nowhere this year. Despite that they're continuing with it (not much choice I suppose).
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I wonder what Dynamics' next move will be.
I wonder how long they'll continue in the BTCC.
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