MASTERS HISTORIC FESTIVAL 25 – 26 May 2024

[flatlandsman]

This happens a lot.

Look at shows int he winter, Race Retro was established and then this startup London thing came out and was put on the same weekend, utterly idiotic, each party are looking to close the other down, with no regard for their own income or fans, who in shows terms would possibly do both!

These people are greedy dumb and self centred, so my way is to not support any of them where possible

[Alfaholic]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Somewhat off-topic but I was chatting with a mate yesterday who went to The Classic & Modern Motorsport meeting at Mallory on Sunday. He was highly impressed with the large number of races held on the day, the quality of the meeting and the relatively low cost (£15.00 per adult) to get in. the fact that it was also a glorious sunny day too was the icing on the cake he said!

I was there on Sunday and will agree with what you've been told - it was all helped by divers (mostly) being sensible and staying on track and not driving into each other to cause red flags.

[brands]

Pity I bought a ticket before the entry list came out. I won't commit to the Masters at the Donington meeting until I have seen their entry lists now.

Agree about Mallory. 9.30 start, away by 17.30, good weather and a decent size crowd.

[Willmaz223]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

Was debating this or motorcross this weekend, having just seen the entry list I think I'll be opting for the motocross.

Canada Heights?

[Thundersports]

Originally Posted by brands

Pity I bought a ticket before the entry list came out. I won't commit to the Masters at the Donington meeting until I have seen their entry lists now.

Agree about Mallory. 9.30 start, away by 17.30, good weather and a decent size crowd.

Any meeting I have to pay to get in now I check the entry before buying a ticket.

[Thundersports]

Originally Posted by geordiecriag101

Well due to work, looks like i'll be there on Saturday then up to Donington on Sunday For British GT. Hopefully there wont be too many interuptions during the day!

Is there anyone on here or know any one who has had recent experience of both entering and competing in Masters Historic and Peter Auto? From what i can see, and this is just purely from a fan/spectator view, both series are targeting the same owners/teams and it looks as if there is little to no co-operation between both organizers. I'm just just curious what makes one more attractive than the other to enter?

The major difference is Peter Auto is entirely based in Europe where Masters is roughly 50/50 so gets the UK competitors here and a sprinkling of them plus the European drivers in Europe. Masters retain the FIA F1 which must be their Jewel in the Crown, this may change with the change of Masters ownership. Peter auto managed to grab the Group C series which used to be similar to Masters being largely UK based. Next season calendar will be interesting.

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by Willmaz223

Canada Heights?

Yes indeed! Just keeping an eye on the weather forecast/social media pages, as rain has stopped play there before. Fingers crossed it will stay dry enough for all the teams to get in.

There is also grasstrack in Kent this weekend. Didn't get to a motocross event last year though, so that takes priority and I'll try and fit grasstrack in later in the summer.

(Bloody typical that there are multiple events I like all on the same weekend! )

[Willmaz223]

Updated entry btw now has now 15 Historic F1s, 11 Sportscars with not one Lola T70 which is pretty insane now. Endurance Legends has now gained a Dodge Viper and a Lola B98 however

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

(Bloody typical that there are multiple events I like all on the same weekend! )

Autosport has a comment article on this very subject this week

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[stuart thompson]

Originally Posted by Willmaz223

Updated entry btw now has now 15 Historic F1s, 11 Sportscars with not one Lola T70 which is pretty insane now. Endurance Legends has now gained a Dodge Viper and a Lola B98 however

Lola crashed out in qualifying and Viper hasn’t left the team awning all weekend. So now down to 8 cars, F1 down to 11 and 10 cars finished the second GT race.

[dwh43scale]

Originally Posted by Thundersports

Any meeting I have to pay to get in now I check the entry before buying a ticket.

Wot 'e said ... no lack of enthusiastic social media presence however.

[Willmaz223]

Originally Posted by stuart thompson

Lola crashed out in qualifying and Viper hasn’t left the team awning all weekend. So now down to 8 cars, F1 down to 11 and 10 cars finished the second GT race.

Yeah its rather tragic when you compare to the grids at Paul Ricard a few weeks ago.

Seems as tho every big historic event in this country is struggling wether its Donington, Brands, even Silverstone doesn't get the grids it used too.

However there is no lack of Brits racing with Peter Auto, GTSCC in Italy etc, maybe the tracks just aren't appealing

[Moneyseeker]

Originally Posted by Willmaz223

Yeah its rather tragic when you compare to the grids at Paul Ricard a few weeks ago.



Seems as tho every big historic event in this country is struggling wether its Donington, Brands, even Silverstone doesn't get the grids it used too.



However there is no lack of Brits racing with Peter Auto, GTSCC in Italy etc, maybe the tracks just aren't appealing

Too many events.

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[flatlandsman]

I would think the costs of bringing stuff here do not help at all, and where would you rather race if you are a vastly wealthy amateur, an airfield in Northants or Paul Ricard, Spa, Mugello?

Sorry no real shock

[geordiecriag101]

If anyone interested, here's my trackside vid of the action from Saturday, it was realy noticeable that the grids were down, will definitely be waiting till entries released before going to Donington meeting:

https://youtu.be/3o8v9_FtoI0

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by midgetman

Autosport has a comment article on this very subject this week

May always seems to be the worst month for it. I know there are only so many weekends in a year (especially in the months when the weather might be less awful!) and I know that you can't expect every Championship to factor every other series when picking dates, but it is frustrating to have three or four weekends with nothing on, then three or four events all coming together. Especially when those clashes are regional/national series events in the same part of the country.

[Marcel ten Caat]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

and where would you rather race if you are a vastly wealthy amateur, an airfield in Northants or Paul Ricard, Spa, Mugello

Paul Ricard, Spa and Mugello are on the Masters Endurance Legends as well as Endurance Racing Legends calendars.

Recently spoke to someone who prefers Peter Auto series because it's a shorter calendar, better overall package and customer(s) can compete against a lot of cars from the same era, instead of racing against a handful of 2018 GT3 and LMP3 cars or even the occasional Porsche Cup or Renault RS01.