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25 May 2024, 17:31 (Ref:4210299) | #1 | |
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I know this get discussed to death but for a team renowned for its ruthlessness, I just cannot see any justification for Perez to retain his seat next year.
All the chatter seems to suggest that the second RB seat is not up for grabs - which if I find baffling given Perez’s quali performances. They need a good strong number 2, especially given the diver line ups for McLaren and Ferrari in 25. At the very least, put Yuki in it! |
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25 May 2024, 17:44 (Ref:4210301) | #2 | |
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That seems to be my thoughts too but then i actually looked back at the previous race results (I dont watch every race any more) and actually i was quite surprised that Perez actually has better results than i thought. The question i guess we need to ask is "Is the Red Bull genuinely that far ahead given Maxs results or is Max just an alien?"
Imola - P8 Miami - P4 China - P3 Japan - P2 Australia - P5 Saudi - P2 Bahrain - P2 |
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25 May 2024, 23:23 (Ref:4210321) | #3 | ||
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Look at the Perez times between him the fastest times in FP1, FP2, FP3, (Hamilton and Leclerc). Then read the team comments on qualifying. Then note that Albon and Gasly both ended up in Q3. Then also note the Alonso went out in Q1 as well as Perez and both had the same issue with traffic because of the narrow nature of the circuit. If you simply look at some order without understanding behind it you will easily make false assumptions. qualifying in Monaco can be a dog's breakfast. Coming across a slow car creates airflow problems and time problems. Alonso said as much as 2 tenths. So thats where the time goes. Margins here are tiny. And the RB20 obviously doesn't like Monaco. It doesn't play to the cars strengths. So the qualifying is not representative entirely of race pace.... But you cannot pass easily. So what are the odds of Albon and Gasly leading trains of cars that can't pass except during pitstops? Possibly quite high. Wait and watch on Sunday. |
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26 May 2024, 00:05 (Ref:4210322) | #4 | ||
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26 May 2024, 02:46 (Ref:4210325) | #5 | ||
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Can you pronounce any three-syllable word audibly legible in a flow of speech within 3 or 4 hundredths of a second? Most people can't. Monaco? Well look at the size of the problem. Perez is not Max, that's why Checo is No. 2 and Max is the lead driver. From Racer Magazine. https://racer.com/2024/05/25/i-cant-...th-verstappen/ This is Red Bulls weak point. And the other guy who didn't make it out of Q1? Fernando whatshisname? He missed it at Imola too, but no one has questioned his credentials for his seat. But they question Lance Stroll who has outqualified him at the last two events. Last edited by Teretonga; 26 May 2024 at 03:02. |
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26 May 2024, 03:02 (Ref:4210327) | #6 | ||
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That is not good enough. You're right, Checo is not Max but right now Checo isn't exactly helping RB get another WCC.Coincidentally, Checo did exactly the same thing last year; he started the season well and then fell apart in Europe. |
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26 May 2024, 03:19 (Ref:4210328) | #7 | ||
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Its not relevant if you look at the events that occurred during practice and qualifying for both drivers regarding the set up and handling of the car. Horner confirmed the issues. |
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26 May 2024, 09:53 (Ref:4210340) | #8 | ||
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2 Jun 2024, 04:48 (Ref:4211401) | #9 | ||
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This is called rewarding failure. He just doesn't have it and barely had it. Even in 2021, Gasly beat him in the Toro Rosso 7 times. And his lack of form in the Euro tracks cost Red Bull the WCC. This is sure to happen again. And its not like there isn't any options out there. At the start of the year, options were almost limitless. They could have went for Alonso or Hulk. But they passed on them. Then there's Carlos Sainz, Bottas, Tsunoda, Gasly or even Zhou (if the team wants money) |
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2 Jun 2024, 16:27 (Ref:4211502) | #11 | |
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15 million ? That's it ? Zhou can bring double that.
Red Bull swam in money even before Oracle came along. This just cant be the reason. Why would a team like Red Bull knowingly surrender a WCC for 2 years over 15 million dollars? |
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28 May 2024, 20:10 (Ref:4210828) | #12 | |
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Perez is a compliant number 2 driver and brings in $50m p/a in value in the form of sponsorship and 65% of RBR merchandise sales apparently.
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