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Old 22 Jul 2014, 19:50 (Ref:3436773)   #226
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3436781)   #227
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I'm not sure if 'Challenge Endurance Proto' or any of those other things is particularly more attractive than ELMS.

But if they were allowed and someone actually did bring P3 over to there, at least someone would be running those things somewhere which can't be overly bad thing?
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 20:06 (Ref:3436783)   #228
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It's not more attractive, but it would (at least) double the market for those cars... and with a tight cost cap, constructors need to sell cars in numbers in order to recoup their costs.

So if VdeV, and maybe some other national prototype series, jumped onto the P3 train, that would radically improve the economic of the class for the constructors. How many cars can they realistically hope to sell in an ELMS-only class? There's no saying if there'll even be an AsLMS next year and TUSC might stick to PC for another ten years for all we know or scrap the class altogether without replacement.
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Old 22 Jul 2014, 20:11 (Ref:3436784)   #229
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Oh right, you meant it as good thing (the initial post kinda confused), gotcha ya. But yes I agree on all points...
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Old 7 Aug 2014, 08:41 (Ref:3442155)   #230
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Ginetta-Juno lmp3 concept

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Old 7 Aug 2014, 09:21 (Ref:3442162)   #231
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I have just seen that an interesting move but I can see the product fit between there GT3 program and LMP3, good luck to them.
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Old 7 Aug 2014, 20:46 (Ref:3442319)   #232
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LMP3 cars looks really close to LMP2, much more than my expectations. It won't be very difficult jump from LMP3 to LMP2
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They look so bulbous. I get theyre for small teams but imo, not very eye pleasing.
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So just like old LMPC, they'll be allowed to run in the Test Day.

Call me crazy but if there were more garage slots at Sarthe (as there should be) and maybe further few GTE slots were axed, I wouldn't mind see a mini 3 or 5 car class of P3s out there. Automatic invites from previous year or something. Capped to such small figure so that teams would still aim up for P2 but there was a real carrot to be grabbed.
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Old 3 Oct 2014, 14:37 (Ref:3459827)   #236
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According to their Twitter, Ginetta-Juno have deposits paid for the first 5 LMP3 pwertrains off the line at ORECA.
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Ginetta's modified track car version of the P3 (eglible for series such as DSC) will have maximum option of 575bhp, which is around 155bhp more than the actual LMP3, and up to P2 levels...
http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/10/13/o...lmp-track-car/

Looks far smoother in design that the actual P3. Wish the actual ACO eglible had this look too
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Old 15 Oct 2014, 06:32 (Ref:3465196)   #238
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that looks more like a P2 car!
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The first customer for the Ginetta Juno LMP3 has been confirmed

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For ELMS right?
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The first customer for the Ginetta Juno LMP3 has been confirmed

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Good to see the names starting to appear. Can't wait to see how a P3 looks on the track compared to other cars.
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Loeb/Adess/Sora LMP3 announced
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...-new-lmp3-car/

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Old 4 Dec 2014, 13:14 (Ref:3481822)   #243
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Pandemonium has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Hope the best for this project. I quite like Adess.
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Nice to see some variety in the class, I was worried we would end up with a Ginetta-Juno spec class.
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excellent. even if nothing comes of all these new chassis appearing for lmp2 and lmp3, all this designing and innovating is excellent for the engineering industry.

is there really that huge a market for trackday cars?
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The 'track day' cars can complete in Dutch Supercar Challenge, Britcar, VdeV and couple of others, so there are places other than just for display
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Well you're not the first person to say that. That implies you have a soul.

By the way no news on the Wolf LMP3?
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Looks like Wolf canned their P3 project, focusing on the P2 instead:

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Beerdigt hat man hingegen das LMP3-Projekt. „Nach den neuesten Reglementsänderungen würde solch ein Auto langsamer sein als unser aktueller CN – da sehen wir keinen Sinn drin dafür ein neues Auto auflegen zu müsssen. Zudem ist der Markt angesichts der engen Cost-Cap ziemlich begrenzt, so das es auch wirtschaftlich keinen Sinn machen würde. Ehrlich gesagt erschliesst sich mir nicht warum der ACO nicht statt dessen die CN als existierende Klasse akzeptiert hat.“
  • recent rule changes made the P3 slower than our CN.
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  • We have no idea why the ACO didn't simply stick to the CN rules

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  • We have no idea why the ACO didn't simply stick to the CN rules

Because they're stubborn and wishing to dismiss customers with eglible equipment

“We’re starting from a [clean sheet] of paper with LMP3. -- We forget [CN] totally because the ACO creates a new category. - The CN has been around for a lot of years, and to be honest, the safety rules of the car is totally obsolete. We don’t want to compare CN and LMP3. We want both categories to compete in the Asian Le Mans Series for the next three seasons, but at the end, we want more and more LMP3s.”

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...per-with-lmp3/
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Mariantic has created a sub-site for LMP3.

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