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I think the MSA have now answered the question with regards Time Attack at least, as they've recognised it as a form of motorsport.
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Erm, so is boxing. Would you not class boxing as a sport?
The dictionary seems to think it is and it would appear that by definition, so is drifting. Sport: 1.an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. 2.a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors. 3.diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime. I'm personally not a fan of drifting. Is it motorsport? Most definitely. |
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nope....same catagory as syncronised swimming
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Boxing is actually the purest competition there is?
It is one man against another, no holds barred and few rules. Its honour, talent, strength, courage and dedication put to the highest test!! I think any sport where you compete against anotehr person for a judgement or a result is a sport. the MSA are fuddy duddies and I imagine the only reason time attack got a licence is coz it takes place mainly on MSA tracks with MSA drivers!! Simple as. In response to the peopel gong on about car control, well doing things liek this in a fairly confined space is all well and good but the cars, diffs, tyres, shocks, pretty much everything are setup to make drifting easy. Doing it in a rally stage at 100mph is a little more skilled and requires more ability in my book. But I guess it's still motorsport! |
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You clearly haven't seen much of D1 have you? During qualifying the majority of the top drivers do backwards entries, they try to do that on purpose to qualify as high as they can.
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Y' see I am not saying its not easy. I am saying that coz it looks very sideways epopel think its incredibly difficult.
But the cars are setup in such a way as to make it easier for the guy to do this? Try and do it in a bog standard car with no tuneable LSD and no Tein shocks and see where you go, you will be able to drift but not as controllably and quickly as the D1 guys. I went to see them at Silverstone and though it was good, was way overrated. Cars were lovely, guys great showmen, but 20seconds of action every few mins just aint enough! Needs to be in car parks and malls where you can get real close to action as they do in Japan sometimes. |
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Drift fanboys are so annoying.
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Also many drivers are competitive in basically standard cars, Heres a video of Mike Gaynor in a bog standard E30 with just a welded diff, who came close to winning the BDC championship in the car (0:46 is him qualifying in 1st place at Knockhill, higher than 500 BHP Silvias and 350Z's): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79VoYojwWyI Also at all the drift events I've been too there have been cars on track drifting at most times, not 'every 20 secs every few mins'. That desciption for me applies to regular forms of motorsport much more than drifting which is non stop action imo. If you like seeing close up action on on car parks then JDM Allstars already provides that: Wembley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d_-HRAGRN8 It's annoying for us when we constantly have to put up with people from conventional forms of motorsport talking crap about the sport we love, reading stuff like 'drifting is not motorsport' 'drfting is judged, so it isn't a sport' 'drifting is chavvy' and **** like that from ignorant people who probably haven't even been to a drift event. |
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Least you get tyre squeel and smoke - tropheé andros is drifting on ice. Forget the racing parts - overtaking is pretty much impossible so it's all about the qualifying which comes down to drifting around a few corners - I can do that at Tesco when it snows!
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That doesn't mean I don't respect those who are involved in these sports just that they hold no real interest for me, my point is you don't have to have an interest in a sport to respect those who do and there isn't really any excuse for rubbishing a sport or those who are involved in it after all at the top level all sports require the same thing - total commitment - which surely deserves our respect. Sports that do 'do it' for me (in case anyone cares) Single seater racing at all levels, hill climb, sprint, tennis, snooker. |
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Alright,
I think its great that there is a form of motorsports like this growing - its nice to see such innovation and originality, instead of just racing around a track like every other form of motorsports. I think that Drifiting is STILL motorsports. It involves cars, and a track. So it qualifies. Just because it is original and innovative does not mean it should be slated as a "fad". Having said all that, it isn't for me. But I still respect it, and like people have already said - it requires total commitment at the higher levels, just like every other sport on the planet. Its only being picked on because it is new, a bit like video-games are being picked on because they are new, and "childish". But already we see things like video-games becoming big - big in industry, money and size, as well as popularity. Drifting will too, if an audience is there. |
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erm actually, Tractor Pulling is about pulling the heaviest weight the furthest distance. Time only comes into it if there are more than one 'full pull' in the final round, only then is the speed of the pull relevant.
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Well, I admit that I have absolutely no idea, so I take your good word for it, silver bullet!
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It's like ice skating. Speed skating is racing, figure skating isn't but is still a form of sport. Drifting isn't racing but some sort of figure driving, and is a sport held with a powered vehicle, that is a form of motorsport.
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