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Renault engines were branded as Supertec, and also Mecachrome. Also there was Playlife.
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And don’t forget Ilmor branded Mercedes engine or Megatron badged BMW
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According to this Wikipedia entry, Renault are responsible for design and Mecachrome assembly.
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The Renault RS9 was manufacturered and managed by Mecachrome. Mecachrome updated the engine after Renault left and sold them to Super Performance Competition Engineering. Thank god they shortened that to Supertec.
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Why M. Vasseur didn't go ahead with Honda power: Makes Sense
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On the face of it, for a team at the back of the grid, becoming (by default) essentially a "works" team or the sole entry for an engine supplier instead of running out of date engines from a different manufacturer appears to be a good thing.
When they pulled out of the Honda deal, I thought they must be mad. However, with a little more light shed on the subject, it is clear that there were several complications to overcome such as the gearbox issue. That is without even taking into account the dismal performance and reliability of the Honda engine. The step closer to Ferrari now makes sense, and I hope this results in an upturn in performance for them. I wonder what gearbox Torro Rosso will be using? |
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But I think the Sauber deal was reversed before McLaren knew for sure what they would be doing (only McLaren can say for sure "when" their mind was made up. Even then, while less than ideal, I can imagine that part of the McLaren/Honda divorce could have included a gearbox deal for Sauber (a bit of a long shot). I may have this wrong, but I think TR makes their own with some (or many) components provided by RBR. So in general I think TR will be creating their own gearbox. Richard |
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i think Monisha Kaltenborn did a tremendous job keeping the team afloat (through a very difficult time) and no questioning her loyalty to Peter Sauber and the team...but ability and the best of intentions doesnt preclude the possibility of making bad choices.
the 'too many drivers' controversy from a few years back and what seems to have been a premature agreement to partner with Honda could be examples of that. though if the Sauber names disappears next year, will this Alfa deal still be looked on by us (or Sauber fans) as the more favourable deal? |
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I think Sauber are slowly learning from their mistakes, hence why they pulled out of the Honda, realising it wasn’t gonna go as easily as they thought. Hopefully this Alfa deal is the start of recovery
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Except.. quite often you get punchdrunk, living in the space of failure such that some offer, any offer, that seems to incrementally move the financial needle in the right direction is a better deal than todays. You begin to believe that what you are doing isn’t good enough to attract more conventional solutions and partners. So new eyes show up. Kill the deal that would likely have killed Sauber, and go make nice with other people who see your value. |
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I wonder how commentators are going to refer to Sauber this year? Will they include the “Alfa Romeo”? Waste of Alfa’s money if they don’t.
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Disappointing to see Sauber “anchoring”, as Autosport so delicately puts it, the timesheets after FP2, but, realistically, who are they going to beat?
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They’re a lot closer to the midfield than last year
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They know the difference between a nameplate and an actual manufacturer partnership effort. Nothing really changed for Sauber.
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