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Saw this in my Facebook feed (corrected for typos and to make the link inactive):
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Strange that the ADR Delta/AXR Coyote bodywork has so many shades of other cars (headlights reportedly inspired by the Lotus T128, which were basically cribbed from the 2011-2013 sprint race spec Audi R18, and the side pod down-slope ahead of the rear wheels inspired seemingly by the OAK Pescarolo/Morgan and post 2010 Lola LMPs), when we all know that ADR Delta/G-Drive run Oreca-Nissans in the WEC.
Considering that, I'd have expected to see more Oreca influences than the Audi/Lotus and Lola/OAK inspired aero tweaks. And as far as M-B, Lamborghini, Nissan and McLaren, there's really nothing stopping the teams from running those cars, but those teams right now don't have a program for homogating the cars to IMSA GTD specs (getting rid of special electronics and running spec aero parts). The Merc could've run as early as 2011 because it had a GA-spec roll cage, Nissan wants to enter a car by mid-season (per rumor), and it's been rumored that McLaren want to develop a GTD spec car before the end of the season. That leaves Lambo, but considering that Lamborghini is part of Volkswagen Group (owned essentially by Audi), and VAG already have Audi and Porsche racing in GTD, it's probably up to privateers to run and develop a GTD spec Lambo, considering that though there are GT3 Lambos, I don't think that Lamborghini and VAG are interested in developing a GTD car. But back to the ADR Delta/AXR/Coyote tie up. I'm surprised that some haven't questioned how this could upset BOP withing the DP side of the Prototype class. Here's my points on why such a radical piece of bodywork is allowed. One, DP's can't get away with being a quasi-spec class now that they're racing against more advanced cars. Two, there's currently no Generation 7 Corvette DP bodywork (I assume that AXR wants to retain Chevy power for right now). And three, we have to remember that AXR's team manager is one Gary Nelson. As in Gary Nelson of NASCAR fame. Some of us know him as the long time NASCAR Competition Director, where he mulled over technical regs for NASCAR's top three divisions. But then again, some of us also remember how he got his job at NASCAR, and how Robin Pemberton got the post when Gary got promoted to NASCAR R&D and then left NASCAR to work part time as a consultant for NASCAR R&D. I'll sum that up here: Gary Nelson was the Chad Knaus of his day... Last edited by chernaudi; 9 Feb 2014 at 17:55. |
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If the final product lives up to the sketches that Pruett was shown, it'll look quite a bit different than the other DP bodies available right now, especially the nose/front fenders and side pod profile.
The only limitation is that the body has to be capable of fitting other chassis than the Coyote chassis with little to no modification, that's unless that rule got dropped with the IMSA/GA merger, and Nelson has expressed a desire to sell the new body to customers, even to those who run Riley or Dallara chassis. But even at that, because of chassis regs and BOP, I'd bet that the body won't be very extreme aside from styling cues, which is what the DP's IMO need right now. The Corvette bodywork is out of date (the C6 is no longer in production), and the Ford bodywork looks virtually identical to the generic Riley DP bodywork--a different shape for the radiator grille isn't exactly a big change. Only other difference between Ford and generic for Riley is that the Ford side pods are angled downwards (sort of like what the AXR/ADR bodywork might have) to provide a place to mount intakes for the turbochargers/intercoolers. |
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IIRC, didn't a team use stickers to make the headlamps look like it had the C7 LED's? Last edited by Breitling24; 9 Feb 2014 at 19:28. |
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The side scallops behind the front wheels are actually very similar (in appearance) to the Corvette (think a hybrid of the C6's fender vents and the "pontoon" fenders of modern LMPs).
To make a "reasonably convincing" C7 DP body, both the front and rear clips, and some of the side pod bodywork, would have to be remolded to have the psudo-production car look. And, it goes without saying that the C6 Corvette bodywork looked to be heavily aped from LMP1 Evo Corvette render that Pratt & Miller made a few years ago. |
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To let people get on with talking about potential and real entries here's another thread to talk about what we would like in this series if we deserved it.
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140746 |
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Marshall Pruett provides an update of sorts on the GAINSCO situation. Their existing car was destroyed at Daytona, whether they purchase a replacement and if so of what (DP) type is TBD. Bob Stallings describes the situation this way:
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So Gainsco seem to think the Dallara is now the superior chassis, interesting.
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http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/al...-oak-for-naec/
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The other entries from Daytona that will not be at Sebring: SMP 458 GTD (one off, leased from ESM) AMR Vantage GTLM (one off, NAEC was possible but not happy with BoP) Gainsco DP (crash) - I was told that the Delta ADR Oreca 03 was going to replace the AXR DP #9 entry but there were some hold ups so who knows now? - Will Starworks be ready in time with the HPD engine? - Falken will be there with their new 991 RSR - 12 PC were entered full season but only 9 were at Daytona, if they can find funding there is room now. |
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Is the absence of AMR confirmed? I know they were threatening to pull out, but I didn't see anything further. |
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Probably Krohn. Risi and Krohn seem to have gone back to the '07-'09 team setup.
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10 Feb 2014, 22:28 (Ref:3366663) | #2614 | ||
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Could be, I suppose, if neither Bertolini or Dumbreck are continuing with Krohn at Sebring. Otherwise I'd guess they'd only have Matteo drive the Krohn car if there was some benefit into getting him back in a car ASAP, and I'm not sure what that would be.
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Is there a limit on how many drivers they can rotate in the car during the test? If there isn't, I suspect they can quite happily append Matteo to the existing Krohn driver squad for a couple of days.
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Nah, of course there's nothing to prevent that and they might well. If it were me, I think I'd want to maximize the time the gentleman driver spends testing, but that is only my take.
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I guess I can see Risi teaming up with Krohn in the 57 at Sebring until a new or newly rebuilt 62 car is ready for Long Beach. Also I wonder if Starworks will have the funding to run their DP car at Sebring. Remember they got away with one at Daytona because no diffuser was needed. Now teams have to commit to forking over the cash for that thing. Is that highway for help team in the same situation? |
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AMR may or may not be at Sebring. Risi's status is unclear, but if there's a constraint, it's financial, not car or parts availability. There are at least 3 grid spots available for Sebring and PC would seem the most obvious source for cars to claim them. So far, no one seems to have stepped up (or at least has said anything publicly about claiming them.) Eric Lux's money is up for grab, so maybe that's enough to get some team into the race. Hopefully, there will be more news next week on the entry front from the test. |
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As for AMR, I got it directly from them at Daytona that although they had paid for an NAEC entry, any participation past Daytona was highly unlikely and if they did, it would most likely be Sebring only. The car is owned by an executive of Valero in Texas so it is his wishes as a customer, not AMR's as a works effort I was told. I hope they end up sticking around. The way the were treated, I'm not counting on it. |
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Marshall Pruett provides an update on the Risi situation here. Car is a write-off from the hit it took at Daytona. They're looking for a replacement ($500,000 or more). A quote:
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http://www.imsa.com/articles/jdc-mil...llenge-program
JDC-Miller Motorsports moves up to full-season PC entry (like Falken Tire) from reserve. |
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Which gets us to at most 66 known entries for Sebring. And with JDC/Miller confirmed for the season from the second alternative PC slot, that's not an encouraging sign for the status of the other PC cars ahead of it on the pre-season entry list (2 x Level 5, second BAR1 Motorsports, Pickett Racing.)
The GTD alternate list is also depleted though we may see some new teams/cars appear later in the season. I would suppose that a second Turner Motorsport BMW Z4 is the most likely near-term possibility in that class. And then there's Project Libra, which is they're capable of putting something together would have to be very close to being granted an entry. Hopefully there will be some surprise additional entries for Sebring... |
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Oak Racing is stating their Asian team(Ligier JS P2 HPD) will race some TUDOR races this year.
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