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http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2314-49.pdf http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2314-50.pdf lmp2 gain 3 liters in fuel tank, DP restrictors can change before sebring, GTD and GTLM lose liters in fuel tank |
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15 Feb 2014, 16:18 (Ref:3368780) | #2627 | |
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Why the heck take fuel tank capacity from the GT cars. Stupid call IMSA.
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15 Feb 2014, 17:54 (Ref:3368805) | #2631 | |
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After daytona, AMR said that they would not continue NAEC without other bop breaks. They obtained breaks, but I've read somewhere that AMR paid only for one NAEC race and is possible that they will retire from NAEC to focus on WEC. With less fuel on tank, GTLM and GTD stints will be shorter, more extra refules will be required, enough to keep GTLM far from prototypes. As usual Ferrari pays the price to have the best fuel injection technology...
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AMR has a time slotted in scrutineering for Sebring now so hopefully that bodes well.
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You can't pay for only one NAEC race. You pay for 1 event, the NAEC, or the full-season. AM said they will forgo the NAEC if they didn't get BOP help. They got it. |
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15 Feb 2014, 21:53 (Ref:3368867) | #2635 | |
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Just another middle finger to the concept of endurance racing.
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Exactly, the precedent was set eons ago, but when the Audi diesels came on the scene, all reasonable sense went out the window. Audi got huge turbo-diesels, but fuel became the new BOP. IMO, fuel capacity is the largest fraud being perpetuated in endurance racing.
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Great, an animated dog in a hat. I suppose it what the natural result of this thread.
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16 Feb 2014, 05:20 (Ref:3368956) | #2643 | ||
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Kind of OT, but great to see/hear our pal Leigh Diffey presenting the sledding events for NBC's Olympic coverage.
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16 Feb 2014, 16:56 (Ref:3369084) | #2645 | ||
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The only reason I can think of for the GT classes' fuel capacity reduction is that the GTLM winning Core Porsche finished I think 6th overall in 24. That was headed by 4 DPs and the Muscle Milk Oreca LMP2.
I don't wanna pull any strings, but if late in the race those 5 cars had significant problems or delays in the pits or garage (which was unlikely to begin with), that Porsche could've been a threat to win overall though it's trouble free run. It also finished ahead of all the LMPC cars that finished the race, and that doesn't, at least in IMSA's eyes, look good for the hierarchy of the class system, though the GTLM cars were quite a bit faster on the banking than the LMPCs and almost all the GTLM teams had the benefit of having all-pro driver lineups, while LMPC is a pro-am class. But with Sebring being Sebring, and with Sebring having more similarities to the "normal" tracks that will form the bulk of the season, it'll be interesting how the test will shake out, especially in Prototypes. Which with the BOP and the LMP2s being given more fuel, that might be an admission that with the LMP2s being easier on their tires, IMSA might want to see them use that to factor into their strategy. We'll have to wait until the Sebring test is done before we can reach any serious conclusions, but I wouldn't be surprised if the DP's keep the rear diffuser that they lose some of that 50+bhp boost because of them now being able to perform better in cornering. Also, since the DP's haven't raced at Sebring before, we don't know how they'll hold up in a 12 hour race there. We all know the reasons why Audi have raced at Sebring in the past and afterwards took the race cars and ran an additional 12+ hours there Monday after the race and why they also do what amounts to a 30 hour endurance test there when they have new cars. Sebring is a different animal to Le Mans and Daytona, and the pendulm can swing into the LMP2 teams' favor just due to experience, just as it helped the DP teams at Daytona. Can't say that for sure yet, but as Sebring (layout-wise) is more like a "normal" track, it can set the tone for performance balancing for the rest of the season. |
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The only positive I can see to reducing the fuel tanks on the GTLM cars is that might help bring back some tire strategy. If the stints are shorter because of the smaller fuel tank so the tires have less wear, and the fuel fill time is shorter so they spend more time waiting on tires, then it might make double stinting tires a bigger advantage vs just changing them because they might as well during the fuel fill.
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http://www.endurance-info.com/en/ho-...championships/
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GT cars are heavier and thus harder on their tires because these cars have less areo grip and have more weight/mass being channeled though the tires.
We also have to remember that even in the LMP classes post LM that there was often little advantage to double stinting tires. At COTA, every time the Toyota double stinted it's tires, the #2 Audi would run it down and pass it. Only the #1 Audi made double stinting work in their favor in that race until the final stops. The #1 Audi also double stinted in Bahrain and they ended up no better off than if they single stinted--Toyota didn't make any attempt to double stint their tires in that race. Also, neither Audi or Toyota intended to double stint tires in Shanghai. The #7 Toyota did because of force majure--they ran out of one compound of tires and had to double stint a set so they wouldn't have to run the softer tires and to save time on a pit stop. It wasn't like Silverstone where Audi thought of triple stinting tires or Spa where Audi and at least the #8 Toyota didn't have difficulties with double stinting. And the WEC has that one wheel gun at a time rule, instead of TUSCC where you're still allowed two and also allowed to refuel and change tires at the same time, which the WEC doesn't allow, either. I'm surprised in TUSCC outside of LMP2 (where the Contis are hard wearing bricks) that anyone would think of double stinting--in open tire GTLM, why not bolt the softest tires you can get away with on the cars and treat it like a NASCAR race? No real advantage there of double stinting unless more work has to be done to the car on a stop or (as Michelin is the main supplier to GTLM) to test for Le Mans. |
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Confirmed Laguna Seca Sunday split schedule double header races, on a two day schedule.
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