70s Super Saloon Pics

[jeff88cirl1]

White Skoda 10 is Alec Poole, ex British Saloon Champion, driving for Derek McMahon. Regards Arthur Collier

[Unit 2 Racing]

Originally Posted by petestenning

Eddie Heasel did indeed do F3 and also Monoposto, he has an electrical rewimd shop in Royston and was along with Gerry Marshal the second driver of the Shaw & Kilburn Viva s, before going to DTV.


Pete

Eddie Heasel raced in F4 Championship from about 74 to 79 in his home built car he called a Mono with Ford 1000cc engine & then a Brabham BT38 or 41 I think with an Imp engine.
He finished 3rd in 74 & 77 and 4th in 76 in the F4 championship.

[Camaroz]

Where is Jim McGaughey's R5?

[COLIN STUBBS]

Im still trying to find that out!! and hopefuilly will know very soon.....

[AMICALEMANS]

i saw once a pic of a red jaguar XJ super saloon with a funny face, but the engine was at the back ! so what kind of funny regulation it was ?

[SRCTRUCKS]

Does anyone have any 80's pics,
would like to see some ingliston or donnington gt ones

[big andy]

Originally Posted by AMICALEMANS

i saw once a pic of a red jaguar XJ super saloon with a funny face, but the engine was at the back ! so what kind of funny regulation it was ?

the engine was not in the back it was set well back in the front

[AMICALEMANS]

For the jag? Is anybody have a pic ! or the engine is in the cockpit ! because the car i saw had no front hood !

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kitson

I think this is Dave Millington in the Brook Hire 2.3 Firenza in '75.

This shot was taken at the 1975 Silverstone Grand Prix meeting and is David Millington.

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kitson

Can't remember who drove this Capri.

This was Jeff Ward at the Silverstone GP meeting in 1975.

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kitson

I think this may be Arthur Collier. Not certain. Car is entered by Derek McMahon who was Derek Daly's backer in his early days.

This was Alec Poole at the 75 GP at Silverstone. He was on pole (wet practice) but came second behind Gerry M in Big Bertha.

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

I'm just reading some late 75 A/sports, which are fascinating for many reasons, cheers again Roger ! One item which is a little surprising to me is that Nick Whiting, from Kent, regularly appears at small Aintree meetings. He was a hero of mine at that time, and I realise he followed the major series nationally. However I find it a little odd that he turned out at these very minor events, none of the other 'southern based' drivers appeared to do so.

There was a local northern driver called (I think) Brian Whiting who drove a 2 litre BDA Escort in the early/mid 70s. Could you be mistaking the names?

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Alan Raine

These might of interest to some of you. They were taken on early in the morning at Siverstone in 1975.

The John Turner Skoda


The Bill Cox Capri


Doug Nivens Capri


Geoff Woods Escort

Thanks for showing these. The white Escort to the right of Geoff Wood's Escort and to the left of Bill Cox's Capri is my Escort 1800 BDA which was only completed on the day of practice for this race - the 1975 Grand Prix supporting Super Saloon race. We were so late we missed practice but were allowed,along with another car, three laps either later that day or on the day of the race itself. Wouldn't be allowed in todays 'to the split second timing' regime!. We only managed 4 laps with a bad misfire before retiring - no chance to get it across to Harry Ratcliffe's rolling road before the race.
I was camping with my son Dan, three at the time, and my wife who was due to give birth any time to my daughter (race on 19th July, daughter born on 28th but due on 21st!) and we were in the VW camper that can be seen in the pic and which we borrowed for the weekend - those were the days!!!
Do you have any decent prints I could have?
Peter Wray

[Camaroz]

Originally Posted by COLIN STUBBS

Im still trying to find that out!! and hopefuilly will know very soon.....

Hi Colin,

I have a lot of shots of the Donnington Thundersaloons race meeting in 82 (I think!)

Includes many of the McGaughay R5 as I was planning to build one of these based on a Biranna (ex-Brock) F2 Car.

I spoke with Jim many times both pre and post my trip to the UK about the project only to have CAMS slam it.

[Dan Rear]

Originally Posted by morninggents

There was a local northern driver called (I think) Brian Whiting who drove a 2 litre BDA Escort in the early/mid 70s. Could you be mistaking the names?

Peter, some great posts from you, I hope there's more to come! I'm aware of Brian Whiting, nicknamed 'Hot Clog' from memory, but he was quite a different chap of course to Nick Whiting. Hot Clog rarely came south I think, Nick W went everywhere. An earlier post of mine speculated why this may have been....

[Speedy norm]

Whats the theory behind N Whitings appearences "up north" then Dan?
I always thought, in those far off innocent days of the seventies that he raced everywhere because, well he could, big fish, little pond mentality. I wonder what his budget was compared to others of the time. I remember when in a level playing field of Sports 2000 he did nothing. Was it money over ability?
Incidenly I don't think that photo in anearlier post is the Whiting car body mouldings are different.

[Dan Rear]

Norm, its just that in those halcyon days, most Clubbie drivers tended to stay local. Nick W appeared at some very obscure meets, even by the standards of the day. Given his later 'underworld' connections/dealings, trhe conspiracist in me now thinks perhaps he ventured north for other reasons...

I should add that at the time, mid-late 70s, he was big hero of minelovely car, very quick, and one of the few able to beat Big Gerry in a straight fight.

In S2000 was he in the Robinson from memory? If so its no wonder he couldn't compete with the Lolas/Tigas of that era. Don't forget that in a G1 Capri, he wasn't far off the Spice/Craft/Woodman etc pace, so he was certainly no slouch.

[Alan Raine]

Originally Posted by morninggents

Thanks for showing these. The white Escort to the right of Geoff Wood's Escort and to the left of Bill Cox's Capri is my Escort 1800 BDA which was only completed on the day of practice for this race - the 1975 Grand Prix supporting Super Saloon race. We were so late we missed practice but were allowed,along with another car, three laps either later that day or on the day of the race itself. Wouldn't be allowed in todays 'to the split second timing' regime!. We only managed 4 laps with a bad misfire before retiring - no chance to get it across to Harry Ratcliffe's rolling road before the race.
I was camping with my son Dan, three at the time, and my wife who was due to give birth any time to my daughter (race on 19th July, daughter born on 28th but due on 21st!) and we were in the VW camper that can be seen in the pic and which we borrowed for the weekend - those were the days!!!
Do you have any decent prints I could have?
Peter Wray

Oh the days of kipping at Silverstone. I was probably in a tent about 100 yards away.

It just shows how popular Special/Supersaloons had become by getting a support race at the GP.

[Speedy norm]

I remember Whiting in sports 2000 at mallory in 79 May Whitsun bank holiday. He was in Lola and absolutly nowhere. It was of course a level playing field. As seen by the fact it was won by.... Paul H Halfpenny ??!!
What a meeting that was T Strawson in the corvair (NS) John Cooper in a new 792 in the auroura round. happy days

[Dan Rear]

Norm, I think you may be getting the meets mixed up a bit. T

he Mallory Aurora round was May 7th, Cooper was there in the 792, the S2000 race was won by Ian T's Tiga, Paul H-H quallied well down, not sure where he finished but not in top 6. Nick W not in the entry for that race. Also no Spec/Superloons on that day. As an aside, I reckon that was the high point for Mallory as regards hosting a big/decent sized field 'real' single seater race. The later 79, and then 1980 Aurora races were nowhere neas as well attended.

Paul H-H did win a Mallory S2000 race, but that was in 78 (Aug 13th) he beat Sytner and Trevelyan - again Nick W not entered. Are you confusing him with Nick Adams. At that meet, Strawson was entered in the Corvair, non-started tho', perhaps you saw him in practice?? That race was won by JIm Evans 2-litre Skoda, from Niven's Beetle, and Nick W's 3.4 Escort.

I have Nick W entered in the S2000 Robinson for the '79 International Trophy meet at S'stone, he non-started too.

Sorry to be so pedantic/anoracky, but that period, late 70s, remains clear in my mind, esp at Mallory !! You're right they were the BEST times !!

[GBRM]

Originally Posted by Speedy norm

I remember Whiting in sports 2000 at mallory in 79 May Whitsun bank holiday. He was in Lola and absolutly nowhere. It was of course a level playing field. As seen by the fact it was won by.... Paul H Halfpenny ??!!
What a meeting that was T Strawson in the corvair (NS) John Cooper in a new 792 in the auroura round. happy days

For thos who didn't know it was Paul H Halfpenny who bought Baby Bertha from Gerry M.

[Alan Raine]

Originally Posted by GBRM

For thos who didn't know it was Paul H Halfpenny who bought Baby Bertha from Gerry M.

...and if I remember correctly painted it a horrible brown and wasn't that quick. Baby Bertha was built for Gerry Marshall and I think it took somebody like Marshall to use it properly.

Paul H Halfpenny had driven big engined cars. I think he had a Corvette in Modsports although I don't think it was that successful with it.

[GBRM]

Originally Posted by Alan Raine

...and if I remember correctly painted it a horrible brown and wasn't that quick. Baby Bertha was built for Gerry Marshall and I think it took somebody like Marshall to use it properly.

Paul H Halfpenny had driven big engined cars. I think he had a Corvette in Modsports although I don't think it was that successful with it.

Yeah, it was a horrible brown, cheap too, £8,500 to Paul IIRC. The whole car was designed around Gerry and when he bought Baby B back he painted it all white before selling it to Joe W who had her painted back into the Castrol colours.

[Dan Rear]

Paul H-H was a car dealer IIRC. Though he went well in a 1-litre Imp his
S2000 win at Mallory against the aces that year was regarded as a little 'iffy' as I remember...

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

Norm, its just that in those halcyon days, most Clubbie drivers tended to stay local. Nick W appeared at some very obscure meets, even by the standards of the day. Given his later 'underworld' connections/dealings, trhe conspiracist in me now thinks perhaps he ventured north for other reasons...

I should add that at the time, mid-late 70s, he was big hero of minelovely car, very quick, and one of the few able to beat Big Gerry in a straight fight.

In S2000 was he in the Robinson from memory? If so its no wonder he couldn't compete with the Lolas/Tigas of that era. Don't forget that in a G1 Capri, he wasn't far off the Spice/Craft/Woodman etc pace, so he was certainly no slouch.

Perhaps Nick W was racing at Aintree whilst he waited for the ship carrying the transporter carrying the cigars to dock .........

Nick was actually a nice guy and he and Charlie were always friendly as are most people in motor racing at club level. He prepared the Escort that Davina Galiza raced occasionally.

Talking of Escorts - does anyone remember the 2.1 litre twincam powered car that Norman Abbott built in the late 60s/early 70s. It had the block centre scooped out and big 90mm liners welded in. It also had a straight through front gearbox with no gears and a Hewland transaxle at the rear - and it was painted light pink!
I think it was later purchased by Chris Meek and appeared in Princess Ita colours. Anyone know where it is now.

There was a race at Brands set up with a big prize to be contested by Gerry Marshall in Old Nail, Dave Brodie's Run Baby Run, Mike Chittenden's Anglia and one other whom I forget. Chris and I were at Norman's workshop to pick up a cylinder head and he was popping off to Brands later that day for a test session - I think this was the Thursday before Sunday's race - and he asked if we wanted to go along. We did of course as we had never been to Brands before, being from 'oop north' but we got home around midnight instead of late afternoon. Norman was mad that he had not been invited to contest this extra prize and broke the lap record in testing - a great afternoon. I can't fully remember what happened in the race but Norman was in the lead at one stage and either broke or got punted off - does anyone have a better memory than me to complete this story?