2015 Calendar (UPDATED)

[Umai Naa]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Interestingly, a number of teams have pre-booked some flights & accommodation for events, based on the original calendar. Presuming these can be changed (likely at a cost)..

How messy ..

So much for saving the teams money

[peckstar]

Accomodation to change weekends 6 months away. No cost.
Airfare with V8 Supercars sponsor Virgin Australia likely to be no cost, but maybe $20 bucks a ticket.

Lets not say stupid things

Cost of significant smaller crowd and reduced tv watching in WA could be a million dollars plus, not including it may mean cant pick up some local one race sponsors for the event

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by peckstar

one of the best thing that ever happened to the 12 hour was the clash of dates and yet you still complain

I shall never, ever understand that thought process.

I assume the date clash with AFL had to be changed because of the number of drivers who wanted to take part in both and the AFL deliberately scheduled it to stop that happening.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Woolley

I shall never, ever understand that thought process.

I assume the date clash with AFL had to be changed because of the number of drivers who wanted to take part in both and the AFL deliberately scheduled it to stop that happening.

let me say it again then

when the event clashes with the local AFL derby it effects the paying crowd significantly as well as the tv watching crowd

Clashing with the 12 hour results in no effect on the paying crowd (no one is paying)

[Umai Naa]

What of the merchandise and food sales then?

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

let me say it again then

when the event clashes with the local AFL derby it effects the paying crowd significantly as well as the tv watching crowd

Clashing with the 12 hour results in no effect on the paying crowd (no one is paying)

TV crowd?

Maybe in WA, but what of the other races that clash with other AFL matches?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

What of the merchandise and food sales then?

yes will affect the merchandise and food purchased at WA also.

But there is minimal food purchased at a test day and usually very little merchandise available as it is too early in the season, in the two test days i went to merchandise and food sales were almost non existent

and let us remember something else also. The key sponsor of the WA event want it moved as well. State government

[D.R.T.]

Speaking of key stakeholders wanting to avoid the clash - I would have thought the NSW Government would have been against a clash between the V8 Test Day and Bathurst 12 Hour.

As a key stakeholder in both series I am surprised this hasnt been raised

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Speaking of key stakeholders wanting to avoid the clash - I would have thought the NSW Government would have been against a clash between the V8 Test Day and Bathurst 12 Hour.

As a key stakeholder in both series I am surprised this hasnt been raised

yes ad nauseum. (bit like the whole testday/12hour clash) With a crowd of 25000 combined for both events i dont think it really is a big issue for them.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

one of the best thing that ever happened to the 12 hour was the clash of dates and yet you still complain

You should run the FIA

Lets get every series & big events clashing dates all year round, it will be the best thing to happen to them all.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by one five five

You should run the FIA

Lets get every series & big events clashing dates all year round, it will be the best thing to happen to them all.

If it happened every weekend then it would not be big news and would not have created all this awesome positive press for the 12 hour and its fanbois would not be on every v8supercar and speedcafe facebook post telling us how good the 12 hour is.

you lost a few drivers but you gained so much more marketing penertration and goodwill

[one five five]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Clearly you're not in marketing. If it happened every weekend then it would not be big news and would not have created all this awesome positive press for the 12 hour and its fanbois would not be on every v8supercar and speedcafe facebook post telling us how good the 12 hour is.

you lost a few drivers but you gained so much more marketing penertration and goodwill

I didn't lose any drivers, nor have i ever claimed to be in marketing :/

I'm just shocked anybody could get an idea that two motorsport events clashing can be good for anybody involved at all.... (especially for any event going up against a V8Supercar event, race meeting or not)

[GTRMagic]

2015 Main Series Calendar – Updated 17/11

Date	Sponsor	Event	Location	Format
Feb 7-8	Sydney.com	V8SC Super Test	Eastern Creek	SuperTest
Feb 26-Mar1	Clipsal	Clipsal 500	Adelaide Parklands	SuperStreet
Mar 12-15	TBC	2015 F1 AGP	Albert Park	International SuperSprint
Mar 27-29	Tyrepower	Tasmania SuperSprint	Symmons Plains	SuperSprint
May 1-3	TBC	Perth SuperSprint	Wanneroo	SuperSprint
May 15-17	TBC	Winton SuperSprint	Winton	SuperSprint
Jun 19-21	SkyCity	Triple Crown Darwin	Hidden Valley	SuperSprint
Jul 10-12	Castrol	Townsville 400	Reid Park	SuperStreet
Jul 31-Aug 2	Coates Hire	Ipswich SuperSprint	Queensland Raceway	SuperSprint
Aug 21-23	TBC	Sydney MotorSport Park SuperSprint	Eastern Creek	SuperSprint
Sep 11-13	Wilson Security	Sandown 500	Sandown	Pirtek Enduro Cup
Oct 8-11	SuperCheap Auto	Bathurst 1000	Mt Panorama	Pirtek Enduro Cup
Oct 23-25	Castrol Edge	Gold Coast 600	Surfers Paradise	Pirtek Enduro Cup
Nov 6-8	ITM	ITM 500 Auckland	Pukekohe	SuperSprint
Nov 20-22	TBC	Phillip Island SuperSprint	Phillip Island	SuperSprint
Dec 4-6	Sydney.com	Sydney 500	Olympic Park	SuperStreet

[Umai Naa]

Would running Tassie a week later conflict with anything?

Seems ridiculous to have several events in close proximity, and then have over a month off afterwards.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Would running Tassie a week later conflict with anything?

Seems ridiculous to have several events in close proximity, and then have over a month off afterwards.

Its even worse in the Dunlop calendar, a 9 week gap between QR & Bathurst... mad!

[ForumNick]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Would running Tassie a week later conflict with anything?

Easter ??? (3,4,5,6 April)

[Umai Naa]

Perhaps the week after that?

Look, the point I'm trying to get across, is the one GTR in the past has eluded to; keep the series relevent in the media and the minds of the supporters, and give the teams a fair break.

It seems in recent years that they smash through 5 or 6 events in the first 2-3 months, then nothing for up to 2 months, then jam the rest in before the first week of December.

Why not aim for something like 2-3 weeks bewteen events? It doesn't need to be drawn out over the whole year.

[kiwi20]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Perhaps the week after that?

Look, the point I'm trying to get across, is the one GTR in the past has eluded to; keep the series relevent in the media and the minds of the supporters, and give the teams a fair break.

It seems in recent years that they smash through 5 or 6 events in the first 2-3 months, then nothing for up to 2 months, then jam the rest in before the first week of December.

Why not aim for something like 2-3 weeks bewteen events? It doesn't need to be drawn out over the whole year.

They have less racing over winter due to weather I presume. They seem to visit hotter areas around this time.

I disagree with it not having to be the whole year. Look at Indycars recently. So much talk about their calendar and how it needs a smaller off season.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by kiwi20

I disagree with it not having to be the whole year. Look at Indycars recently. So much talk about their calendar and how it needs a smaller off season.

I don't think anyone is advocating a 5 month calendar like the IRL has.

However would it be a bad thing if the season finished in early November instead of early December? There's only an 8 week break between Homebush and the "SuperTest" afterall as it is.

[Axeman444]

And having the Sydney round in the 35 degree 90% humidity of November will be better than the 38 Degree 95% humidity of December.

Might drag in a couple more punters at least.

[Umai Naa]

For some, ticket purchases would impact on their last-minute Christmas budget.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

For some, ticket purchases would impact on their last-minute Christmas budget.

and other it would be a Christmas item

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

and other it would be a Christmas item

or belated Father's Day as it was for me several years ago. I then made it clear it should never be a present ever again, I didn't want to be sitting in a blazing hot grandstand with no sun cover under the December Sun to be able to see 1 corner or a piece of 1 straight, or worse, not be in a grandstand with it 1 degree cooler fighting with everyone else to be in the shade and be able to see stuff all.

I'll sit at home and watch it on replay thanks

[Reload]

November 20, 2014

CRITICISM OF the V8 Supercars test day and Bathurst 12 Hour date clash continues to roll on, with Nissan’s Global Motorsport Boss, Darren Cox, slamming the scheduling conflict.
The Japanese manufacturer planned on fielding two NISMO GT-R GT3 entries at the event but will switch to a single car.
Cox, however, said the date clash is a black mark against V8 Supercars.
“I’ve got to say Richard [Emery, Nissan Australia CEO] is a great guy to have on your side,” he told radiolemans.com
“He is putting our case very strongly to the V8 guys down there. He’s very annoyed about the situation, I think quite rightly. The new manufacturers are injecting life into that championship. We know the problems Holden and Ford have got down there from funding their racing programs which is all off the back off moving production out of there and moving away from those types of cars that race in that championship. You’d think there would be open arms there for the manufacturers.
“We’ve had our struggles which are well documented in terms of the car that was homologated. Now this one we feel quite beaten up by it, because we’re one of the only manufacturers it directly affects. I met with the Kelly boys who happened to be in Vegas when I was there. They were claiming to be working of course, as I was, and Rick is absolutely devastated he can’t do the 12 hour. He thoroughly enjoyed it last year. He loved driving the GT3 car and it’s disappointing for everybody.”
While James Warburton told AA V8s was copping flak from V8 fans for not averting the calendar conflict, Cox lashed the series for playing politics.
“It’s another case of the politics getting in the way of sport. I think there’s only one loser and that will be the sport unfortunately. If V8s think they’re the only game in town, then things are changing down there. I think the Bathurst 12 Hour will only grow and grow and I think V8s taking them on is the wrong thing to do. I think there’s room enough for both championships.”
Cox added the switch to a single car will have an adverse impact on Nissan at the Bathurst 12 Hour due to the date clash.
“I think more of it is the fact we wouldn’t be able to use our star Australian drivers,” he added.”That’s the most important thing. We’re compromised now. We’re probably not going to run an Australian which is ridiculous when you’re racing in their home country. Again, there’s lots of reasons for the decision we’ve taken, but it’s not helped that there’s a clash. This one will rumble on I think. We made our point clear in the strongest possible terms, both locally and globally and it’s not being resolved.
“For me it’s a black mark on the championship which is a shame because we’re making big progress forward with the V8s. We had some good results this year and as I said, the new manufacturers should be welcome with open arms by the V8 championship,” he concluded.

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by peckstar

let me say it again then

No need, I understood you the first time. I just don't agree with you. When motorsport struggles for spectators generally as a minority sport, the thought of one bit of motorsport deliberately sabotaging another bit of motorsport by forcing the non-participation of the best known drivers appals me. F1 used to schedule Canada to undermine Le Mans in years gone by and I thought that was pathetic then, and I think this is pathetic now.

I'm not asking you to agree with me because you're a fan of V8s and I'm a fan of motorsport.