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I can see why they have, but I wish they hadn’t resorted to the same crap Red Bull did earlier.
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Now that Bottas finished ever so conveniently within 5 seconds of Max, with no chance for Max to manage his race to ensure he stays ahead of that gap, suddenly they are appealing. They're all as bad as each other. |
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The same process?, Yes But an entirely different route through it. This time Mercedes legitimately have evidence not available to the stewards at the time…it’s what this process is set up for. |
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16 Nov 2021, 23:24 (Ref:4083911) | #259 | |
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None of this would've occurred had Silverstone been dealt with properly.
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I think it has become increasingly obvious that when this season is finally over
Lewis and Max's mums will have to give them both a severe talking to. |
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17 Nov 2021, 09:26 (Ref:4083936) | #265 | ||
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Technically - 64 more points for this to be over.
There are 78 more points for Hamilton to get this season, taking him to 396.5. What if Verstappen had completed more laps in those DNF's - and had to take engine penalties in later races as a result? In seriousness, almost every WDC could be debated endlessly over where certain contenders lost or gained points. The truth is - the racing we have seen so far, along with the application of the regulations within the racing is held, has seen use enter the last three races with a 14 point gap between the leaders. |
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17 Nov 2021, 10:47 (Ref:4083954) | #266 | |
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I still believe the gap should be five points less as the non-race at Belgium should never have been counted. OTOH Lewis should have been a lap back in Imola, but for the(IMO) silly SC free pass rule for lapped cars, after the red flag for the Bottas/Russell incident
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Mechanical failure happens, and are the responsibility of the teams that build the car. Getting involved in collsions with drivers/cars are a dime a dozen and a are "accepted evil" of racing. There's a knack to avoiding potential collisions, but you can't quantify it because almost all the time you're not in a crash.
But in the history of F1, there has never been 2nd place in the championship punt off the leader, denying the opportunity of them finishing the race. winning, scoring points, while going on to win the race and receive the full benefit from points gained. It wasn't dealt with properly, and you get with what you've seen since. It wouldn't surprise me if there'll be more of it before the season's out. |
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Which part wasnt dealt with properly? Hamilton recieved a penalty for Silverstone, as he should have, the appropriate penalty for the action. Prior to this, Max ran Hamilton off the road at Imola, race 1 at Silverstone and in Horners own words, if Hamilton hadnt moved out of the way in Spain, both he and Max would have ended up in the wall. So if people are trying to insinuate that Max is simply retailiating or ramping up things in response to Silverstone, then they are completely ignoring the hard driving from Max that led up to silverstone. If those same people are also insinuating that Max is now retaliating, then you are also admitting that he is using his car as a weapon, trying to drive his main championship rival off the road, both at Monza and Brazil....something that should be frowned upon, not used as a mitigating excuse. This year Lewis has been run off the road at Imola, Spain, Monza, Race 1 Silverstone and Brazil.....he himself has 'caused' 1 incident in Race 2 at Silverstone....and yet somehow, some people seem to think its Lewis thats causing this? |
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Although there has been instances of the winner, punting off another driver and taking the race win. take Button 2011 Canada for example....and yet its one of the most celebrated wins in the history of F1.
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If my recollection of what I think you are referring to is the incident between Button and Hamilton on the run past the pits towards the chicane, then I am pretty certain that it was Hamilton that attempted to "bully" his way past Button on the inside line, and when Button refused to give way, Hamilton had to take to the grass and lost it. |
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not saying it was Buttons fault, he had the weather to blame etc etc but he did 'cause' the incident. Point stands though, incident happen and have happened where drivers who have caused the incident have recovered to win the race |
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I think it is in connection to the lake, and associated drainage / watercourse.
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