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Also, it will be tough to prove that Renault, Ferrari, MB aren't hiding R&D in the street car or other racing program division. It's a can of worms but I think one the FIA and FOM have to tackle. Sent from my SM-G955U1 using Tapatalk |
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but a reduction in staff has other benefits. greater competition for jobs which all things being equal should leave us with a higher quality of staff remaining and with an exodus from one team to another could speed up the flow of ideas and technology. some quality signings by the smaller teams as staff is shed from Merc and Ferrari could lead to faster gains by those smaller teams. and if the rules climate is right, a new manu/team (or even Renault and Honda) can come in and pick up some of that redundant staff as well...so net effect of those losing jobs may not necessarily be as bad as 50% of Merc and 40% of Ferrari. |
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Really some teams can cope with less staff, but it’s good to see so many jobs. I could see Merc shedding a few, but not many. Ferrari though will always have a big workforce. It would be nice to have more staff for teams at the back or for teams coming in. I don’t know of we’d see more manufacturers though
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new mandatory helmet design introduced by the FIA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPxvlVhiZ7U looks pretty cool despite the smaller visor. bit surprised they havent introduced any biometric sensors inside of it akin to what they have in the new gloves. maybe with the gloves any additional sensors become redundant but still a very cool new piece of kit. |
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New grid procedure from this weekend’s Canadian Grand Prix onwards. Kimi Raikkonen is said to be absolutely thrilled.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...edure-1044933/ |
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Need to continue to improve safety and this new helmet looks state of the art in that respect
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Very considerate of the FIA to provide extra business to the helmet manufacturers. When percolated down to grass-roots competitors (as stated in the press release) will probably be yet another nail in the coffin for those already struggling for budgets to enjoy low cost racing. |
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https://www.fia.com/news/fia-reveals...tive-helmet-f1 It is my understanding that even helmets based upon the previous FIA 8860 standard (aka super helmets) are VERY expensive. So I expect grass roots racing will continue to not require this level of expensive helmet and that other standards organizations like SFI and Snell will maintain their rating system and that manufactures will provide options at various cost and safety levels. Frankly requiring a helmet like this for grass roots racing will kill racing as we know it. It is interesting to note that in the internal FIA publication "Auto" that discusses the development new standard, they mention that the previous iteration was an extension of the existing Snell standard while the new one breaks from Snell and is a stand-alone standard. Logically it makes sense to not rely upon other standards when defining your own, but I also wonder if there may be a break between Snell and FIA. Especially given they are now becoming direct competitors. https://www.fia.com/multimedia/publication/auto-22 Richard |
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In the UK, the MSA has a nasty tendency to follow the FIA in their requirements. Also a number of other European MSA's mandate the top level of safety equipment when it percolates down from F1 for non-FIA sanctioned events. |
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Do other series require the current F1 required helmet? It seems they would only require the new in the cases where the previous generation was required.
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Whilst the opening is a bit small, given that most single seater helmets have reflective visors, could you not just make the visor the same size as the current helmet, and then visually it'll look identical to the spectators?
The slit to look through is smaller, but vertical vision hasn't really been an issue. The halo and LMP1 A Pillars will probably cause more issues than this. |
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What is not clear to me is how different the 2010 vs. 2018 version of the spec is. For example the FIA site has a list of 8860-2010 helmets and some are open face (which I assume is a no-no with the 2018 spec?) 8860-2010 helmets seem to be around $1K US minimum. I expect given more stringent requirements that the 2018 spec will drive up cost. Richard |
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At the moment, all National meetings run under the control of the MSA require the spec 8860-2004 (valid until 2020), 8860-2010 or 8859-2015.
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For anything above Nat B we have to run full FIA approved suits, underwear and gloves. Helmets must comply either with FIA or Snell requirements. Seats and belts are also as per FIA requirements. So, if this is mandated it will overrule the current standards and we will be forced to buy new helmets. That said I'm sure there will be various grades, as there are now, so a full Formula 1 grade helmet won't necessarily be required. That said it is still an additional cost, which, as Mike asserts, will drive more people away from the sport.
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Richard, to add to my and Peter's posts, the current cost of the FIA 8860 helmets being sold in a well known emporium in the UK start at just under $2,500.
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Actually $2057.00 to $5850.00
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Peter, is it possible that you didn't include the dreaded VAT?
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Are the FiA going to mandate these new helmets for F1 media from now on too?
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The recommended retail price for a Bell HP7, which conforms to FIA 8860-2010 and SNELL SA2015 is € 2950.00 + Tax.
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Wonder what the actual production cost of one of these is ? € 100.00? Perhaps the FIA should be batch buying these and distributing them to the members, it is a club after all. |
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