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Mike, I am not at all a political person (probably a reaction as my Dad most certainly was), so don't really follow their events that closely. However, I do agree with your sentiment about there being anyone (anywhere) who would be a better candidate for the job!
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It was a legimate vote set up for possibly the wrong reasons. So I can't let her get away with failing to do what she said she would do.
It may not matter in a very short time because the EU is falling apart at the seams. Everyone forgets that it is not a sovereign state, unlike the USA which is the only equivalent. |
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I’m still puzzled as to why so many migrants are spending thousands to be ‘shipped’ across the channel- or is the relative chaos of France at present worse that the relative chaos of the U.K.?
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Did you see the story on the news last night about six Iranians in a sinking inflatable crossing the Channel in the dark? They were spotted by a Dover fishing boat, who offered assistance, but they refused help until they knew they were within British territorial waters, at which point they were picked up by Border Force. The fishing boat shadowed them all the way with their searchlight as they were convinced that with no lights they would get run over by one of the many cargo ships in the area. |
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If she'd signed up (as she could have when she was Home Secretary) to the agreement limiting the length of stay of foreign citizens (like every(?) other EU country did) the current problem might not have existed in the first place. Whatever happens she'll be alright, her husband's helping large companies to avoid tax means the pair of them will be well rewarded. |
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Benefits they would receive in France (and most other EU countries) are better (as of course are all the services that haven't been decimated by conservatism) so that isn't a reason, apart from possible linguistic issues. The other issue is where they ultimately want to end up, a large number who were in the Calais camp said they wanted to go to Canada via the UK. |
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Having picked the girls up, they informed US Coastguard, who then requested then to ram the dinghy to sink it. Not in a wooden ship we're not, was the answer!! |
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Although in fairness to Cameron, given the result of the referendum, it did show how split the country was (and is) in relation to the EU and that a majority were in favour of Brexit. I know he didn't really do it for the country - it was about the Tory party - and maybe not the wisest decision (I would stress the word maybe).
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On a completely different note- had to chuckle at the news item on the German Chocolate spill after a storage tank sprung a leak! Sounds like they are struggling to clear it up after it set.
Seem to remember a problem in the UK not that long ago when a tanker spilled its cargo of liquid choc, and the road was closed for some time due to the difficulty in cleaning up the solid version..... |
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So, with apologies to everyone on here, I'm going to explain why, in the majority of cases people who cared voted to leave the EU. First, we, none of us would want to leave Europe since; a, it's geographically impossible; and b, we like it and we are europeans. But, let's not talk immigration or illegal immigrants. Neither of those problems would exist if the EU countries stuck to the Le Touquet agreement, whereby immigrants seeking asylum in the EU were to be processed in the country where they landed. That worked so well that Italy shipped them on via the free borders to France who shrugged their shoulders and said, let's stick them in camps near Calais. The process was naive in the extreme. What happened is what we see now and thus they are not welcome in France (or any other country other than Germany) and so they end up trying to get to the UK. Likewise as has been pointed out we didn't sign the limitation period. But that would have meant joining Schengen and the Euro. Then there's free movement of goods and services. We signed up for that when we voted (in 1971) to join the EEC. I like it, everyone likes it. So, why should the UK leave? Well certainly it will cost more in visas to travel to Europe, no problem there. Likewise our mobile phone bills when roaming may be more expensive (unlikely). Without joining the Euro we can limit the amount of time immigrants can stay in the country unless they are working, are students or, well sounds similar to Schengen doesn't it? Then there's the fact that in the Euro we can't control our own business to the extent that being out of the Euro "despite Brexit" the UK is outperforming the EU in trade and business. Just look to France, Portugal, Greece and Italy for evidence of how well the EU treats its friendly states. By the way they are not "Countries" but "EU States". You can see where all this is heading can't you? For the record I'm working on a project that crosses Greece and Italy. Both countries are far worse off than when I visited before the EU disaster. Outside of the EU the UK can make trade deals with other countries, including the EU (which as I said earlier is not a country but a money making organisation). As a net contributor to the EU it would be silly for them not to make us stay. That said it won't be a seamless transition and there will be some pain no doubt. But in my experience that pain is usually political and thus minimal, compared to the benefits. £350m per month in the coffers. If anyone voted just for that they wanted their bumps felt. Great gimmick and indeed demonstrated the cost of being in the EU, although it is actually more and of course it's not going to the NHS when we leave. Then there's the ECJ. I give you Vnok as a good example of a flawed and politically motivated court. In the case of Vnok the landowner should have had third party liability insurance. He didn't so in a normal court of law he would have been sued for damages. Instead to make sure only businesses can deal with things, they want to change the laws for motor insurance. You want that bunch of corrupt, ill equipped paid mouthpieces to overrule laws made in the UK? They do right now and it should cease forthwith. In summary the only reason why anyone would want to stay in this benighted organisation would be because they are being paid to do so. And thus I suspect they'd be next to ****ing useless if they had to work for a living. So, after this, I'm just going to cook some Italian sausages to eat with my Albanian baked potato and Heinz Baked Beans. I'm sooooo European. |
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[QUOTE=Peter Mallett;3869715]Yes, whenever I see remainers (I do hate that term) moaning
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All getting a bit political....
And as far as I can tell- everyone is moaning, whichever way they originally voted! |
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Actually no. I'm not moaning at all just fed up with being cast as a little Englander and racist. I'm neither.
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No it is still awaiting ratification. But there are other examples I just used that because it's relevant to our interests.
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Pretty good assessment Peter, matches my outlook.
May isn't the most competent (or indeed charismatic) PM we've had, but I'm beggared if I can find anyone in the current crop of MPs who would be better.....possibly Hilary Benn, but he's on the wrong side of the house Anyway, be interesting to see what the rebellious Tory MPs do now they've got themselves committed to at least 12 months of Teresa |
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