Bell's Banter 2021 - Page 129

delta · 11 Dec 2021, 20:22 (Ref:4088360)

BTW everyone my team is Delta Motor Sport. Established in 1990. There is another lot at Silverstone who pinched my name. This has been discussed on here in the past.

Gerard C · 12 Dec 2021, 08:22 (Ref:4088418)

John, I dunno how restaurants and other places play the passport game but here it becomes rather weird. Yesterday 11 December I was refused to sit in a restaurant just because they anticipate the 16 th date or even January dead line. Not forgetting that, again, its a real pain in the neck to have the third jab done (now fixed but took a long while).

Good thing is that relying on Moderna vaccine puts you on the top of the list, very few people wanting it! Strange days…

**Peter Mallett** · 12 Dec 2021, 08:33 (Ref:4088421)

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Originally Posted by delta

BTW everyone my team is Delta Motor Sport. Established in 1990. There is another lot at Silverstone who pinched my name. This has been discussed on here in the past.

Yes my apologies for misspelling Motor Sport.

zefarelly · 12 Dec 2021, 09:28 (Ref:4088427)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

John, I dunno how restaurants and other places play the passport game but here it becomes rather weird. Yesterday 11 December I was refused to sit in a restaurant just because they anticipate the 16 th date or even January dead line. Not forgetting that, again, its a real pain in the neck to have the third jab done (now fixed but took a long while).

Good thing is that relying on Moderna vaccine puts you on the top of the list, very few people wanting it! Strange days…

Interesting, Whilst I've been avoiding large getherings, I had moderna, have gone to work continually throughout, a few gigs and the odd pub and not had it (yet)

Can't find anywhere very local for a booster. Don't really want to go to Brighton.

Gerard C · 12 Dec 2021, 11:27 (Ref:4088448)

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Originally Posted by zefarelly

Don't really want to go to Brighton.

I understand this Joe! Each morning or so I have a coffee in a bistrot near my location. The owner is supposed to check consumers' statut but I know he had no jab yet!

My first thought was to wait a bit for the third injection but a valid passport will be mandatory from 15 January for restaurants, cinemas and more important for me, race meetings. Not a real choice if you dont want to jeopardize or play russian roulette with your health they say…

Reading the gov' recommendations is puzzling like have a covid jab in the left arm and anti-flu in the right one, same day… Go figure!

Mike Harte · 12 Dec 2021, 12:25 (Ref:4088459)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

Reading the gov' recommendations is puzzling like have a covid jab in the left arm and anti-flu in the right one, same day… Go figure!

Gérard, I do believe that it is following medical advice. I say that because I have to have regular injections of some things because certain parts of me have been chopped away and I need certain boosters to maintain my levels. So, the medical practice that I use keep a record of which arm is used for each one and then the next time they use the other arm; same applied to the Covid and flu jabs.

Gerard C · 12 Dec 2021, 13:09 (Ref:4088475)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

Gérard, I do believe that it is following medical advice.

Something I do follow for various reasons, should have the two jabs next week. I dont think any vaccine can be as bad as the virus itself.

I dont even try anymore to understand how they manage the passport thingy here, bearing in mind that on the list they already have "people" like Mickey and Spongebob! Till now, I saw no bar tender checking the passport and the ID as should… Hence some smiles, when a lady looking "very much experienced" presents a QR code showing thirty years old…

John Elwin · 12 Dec 2021, 16:33 (Ref:4088774)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

John, I dunno how restaurants and other places play the passport game but here it becomes rather weird. Yesterday 11 December I was refused to sit in a restaurant just because they anticipate the 16 th date or even January dead line. Not forgetting that, again, its a real pain in the neck to have the third jab done (now fixed but took a long while).

Good thing is that relying on Moderna vaccine puts you on the top of the list, very few people wanting it! Strange days…

Gerard, I think the novelty of the health passports is wearing off now & places are not so much, but that may depend upon the frequency of gendarmerie visits! Last Sunday we had lunch in a salle de fetes at a Christmas Market & passes were not needed. The people doing the catering are opening their own restaurant shortly so may have to change their ways! Today we had lunch in a restaurant for Michele's father's 91st birthday & they did check them their. Last weekend we went to a concert by the Orchestra National de Lille in Arras & whilst passes were checked there certainly wasn't any social distancing - quite the opposite!

We had no problem booking boosters & we will be going next Friday. It won't quite be six months since the second but I suppose it doesn't matter. We had Astra Zeneca before & I hope it is the same again, but who knows?

John Elwin · 12 Dec 2021, 16:34 (Ref:4088775)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Yes my apologies for misspelling Motor Sport.

Somebody apologising TO Delta for their spelling? That's a first!

John Elwin · 12 Dec 2021, 16:36 (Ref:4088779)

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Originally Posted by zefarelly

Interesting, Whilst I've been avoiding large getherings, I had moderna, have gone to work continually throughout, a few gigs and the odd pub and not had it (yet)

Can't find anywhere very local for a booster. Don't really want to go to Brighton.

Don't your local pharmacies do it?

That's where we go, & it is easy - just book an appointment & turn-up on time, no waiting, no messing.

John Elwin · 12 Dec 2021, 16:39 (Ref:4088781)

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Originally Posted by Gerard C

I understand this Joe! Each morning or so I have a coffee in a bistrot near my location. The owner is supposed to check consumers' statut but I know he had no jab yet!

My first thought was to wait a bit for the third injection but a valid passport will be mandatory from 15 January for restaurants, cinemas and more important for me, race meetings. Not a real choice if you dont want to jeopardize or play russian roulette with your health they say…

Reading the gov' recommendations is puzzling like have a covid jab in the left arm and anti-flu in the right one, same day… Go figure!

Your last comment surprised me as I was under the impression there should be three weeks between the two jabs. However, having had the booster, do you really need the flu jab? Don't think I would bother.

Mike Harte · 12 Dec 2021, 16:46 (Ref:4088788)

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Originally Posted by John Elwin

Don't your local pharmacies do it?

That's where we go, & it is easy - just book an appointment & turn-up on time, no waiting, no messing.

I think that originally only a couple of Boots were set up to do them (I was lucky that one of them was local to me and I had them there), and I am not aware that any other pharmacies were licenced to do them. My booster was done at a fairly near medical practice that is part of the group that I now go to.

A lot of jabs are being done in pop-up units that are travelling around the area. There has been one in my local supermarket's car park a few times over the last couple of months or so.

delta · 12 Dec 2021, 17:39 (Ref:4088841)

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Originally Posted by John Elwin

Somebody apologising TO Delta for their spelling? That's a first!

I am watching you John. Great shame i did not make time to swing by and see you. Sorry. I have a little job to do for the guys at Croix so I could of fitted a visit in and done both jobs. Happy Christmas.

delta · 12 Dec 2021, 17:41 (Ref:4088843)

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Originally Posted by John Elwin

Your last comment surprised me as I was under the impression there should be three weeks between the two jabs. However, having had the booster, do you really need the flu jab? Don't think I would bother.

A lot of people I know had both the booster and flu jab at the same time. I did not! and guess what. I got flu." Numpty".

Gerard C · 12 Dec 2021, 18:30 (Ref:4088895)

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Originally Posted by John Elwin

Your last comment surprised me as I was under the impression there should be three weeks between the two jabs. However, having had the booster, do you really need the flu jab? Don't think I would bother.

Well I wouldnt say three weeks but between five and seven months! "They" say that the booster and flu jab are quite different. What is fascinating to my eyes is that, living in the same country but in different areas, the interpretation of official rules/recommendations/laws changes quite a lot. Between scientists and politics, knowledge and understanding, what a mess we have here! Seems the situation is much better in the UK. As always…

John Elwin · 12 Dec 2021, 19:05 (Ref:4088912)

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Originally Posted by delta

I am watching you John. Great shame i did not make time to swing by and see you. Sorry. I have a little job to do for the guys at Croix so I could of fitted a visit in and done both jobs. Happy Christmas.

Don't worry, I was only joking!

It would be good to see you if you do get over here. I can guarantee a cup of M&S Extra Strong tea, maybe even a Kwossant!

**Peter Mallett** · 12 Dec 2021, 19:08 (Ref:4088914)

I went out for a few drinks with friends on Thursday. Yesterday I got pinged by the NHS, currently waiting for the PRC test kit. So no travels for me this week.

Gerard C · 12 Dec 2021, 19:27 (Ref:4088937)

Tonight was a kind of Xmas eve, just… well just because. Had a "jab" of Deutz champagne, really worth because you never know what tomorrow may bring!

Cheers you all!

grantp · 12 Dec 2021, 20:09 (Ref:4088979)

It seems to me that it is rather unfortunate that the Moronic (check for the anagram) version of the current endemic has become all-pervasive (and seemingly usefully benign) at the same time that our Prime Minister needs some distractions to attempt to prevent people looking more deeply into his double standards. And other aspects of his personality.

Unfortunately for him the arrival of child number 7 (detectable) has not been adequately sympathy generating in the media to prevent people digging into his "standards" - or maybe trying to find them.

Combining the "level" of lockdown with the latest set of alleged "symptoms" should have the entire country closed in a week or two. That might suit Boris well. Not so much the people who provide the funding to keep things running - unless they are already ahead of the game.

bauble · 12 Dec 2021, 22:41 (Ref:4089063)

Whether Boris is competent, morally sound, two faced or any other character defect, I just wish the media, rival politicians, the BBC, social commentators, Uncle Tom Cobley and all, would concentrate on trying to save the nations health and wealth, and stop playing party politics.
It seems to me that behind the huge cloud of vilification Boris is doing a pretty fair job in extremely difficult circumstances. But then I grew up during a World War when people put the country first, so perhaps I am just an Old Fogey.

On another note has anyone else spotted that the

Labour Party is headed by Sir Kier Starmer.
The Liberal Party is headed by Sir Ed Davey.
The Conservative Party is headed by plain old Boris Johnson.

Ironic?

**John Turner** · 13 Dec 2021, 08:45 (Ref:4089146)

Ironic, Bob, but irrelevant given Bojo's background, and I think you'll find that Labour (I'm not particularly a supporter, for the record) has supported most of the government's covid measures, when quite a few of its own backbench haven't. And that's me done on this as I tend to get very edgy when we introduce politics to our Motor racing forum, banter or otherwise!

Lancsbreaker · 13 Dec 2021, 13:34 (Ref:4089228)

Whilst echoing John's concern about bringing politics into our motor-sport themed area (there are plenty of other venues where political virtue-signalling can thrive), I would suggest that implying that the Omicron outbreak is a distraction is somewhat undermined by the huge numbers of cases elsewhere in the world. France for example seems to have about 3 times our number of new cases, according to the Times today, and whilst Macron is also somewhat under pressure, I wouldn't suspect him of manufacturing a health crisis.......

Gerard C · 13 Dec 2021, 14:14 (Ref:4089248)

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Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

France for example seems to have about 3 times our number of new cases, according to the Times today, and whilst Macron is also somewhat under pressure, I wouldn't suspect him of manufacturing a health crisis.......

I wouldn't either Richard. But, there are always side effects to this kind of situation, people tending to look for protection. And the way they manage the passport is somewhat puzzling, one day you're in, the other you're out or will be soon. From five months for the booster we went to seven or so. We are lucky that many pharmacies took the thing seriously, offering free vaccination even on Sundays when they're supposed to be closed.

Lancsbreaker · 13 Dec 2021, 14:21 (Ref:4089251)

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Originally Posted by John Elwin

We had no problem booking boosters & we will be going next Friday. It won't quite be six months since the second but I suppose it doesn't matter. We had Astra Zeneca before & I hope it is the same again, but who knows?

Here it was a clear policy that those who had had AZ for the first two (as I did) should have Pfizer for the booster. Supposedly protection was dramatically improved by the mix...... although I have seen one report today saying that having only the double AZ jabs gives very little protection against contracting the new variant - although protection against serious illness is probably possible.

bauble · 13 Dec 2021, 15:32 (Ref:4089263)

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Originally Posted by John Turner

Ironic, Bob, but irrelevant given Bojo's background, and I think you'll find that Labour (I'm not particularly a supporter, for the record) has supported most of the government's covid measures, when quite a few of its own backbench haven't. And that's me done on this as I tend to get very edgy when we introduce politics to our Motor racing forum, banter or otherwise!

Quite right to John, it is amazing what some people get worked up about, and politics is a minefield of feelings, waiting to be trodden on.

I very, very rarely even look at the Formula 1 forum, but I can imagine it is a pretty hairy place to be at the moment.

I'm off to the Picture Parade, we hardly ever get worked up there. The Puzzle bit is a different matter altogether.

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