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terence · 16 Apr 2009, 22:28 (Ref:2442602)

Thats handy for Silverstone fans,they will be able to take pleasure trips over DP to admire where the GP WAS going to be.

john ruston · 17 Apr 2009, 07:01 (Ref:2442777)

Maybe a pair as he owns Paul Ricard but with no GP

zefarelly · 17 Apr 2009, 07:28 (Ref:2442785)

I thought Paul Ricard was a large scale exercise in abstract art, solely for the benefit off passing lear Jets

Maybe Donningtons new owners have more interest in the Turner Prize rather than motor racing, giving something to occupy the minds of air passengers as they plummet to a firey death in poorly maintained squeezyjet cattleclass flying bus!

simon drabble · 17 Apr 2009, 09:07 (Ref:2442860)

with the running costs possibly now outstripping income at Siverstone JR's idea is not so fanciful.... the members I know seem to be saying that a clean sale of the site woudl not be a bad thing so long as they retain Farm and Luffield facilities.... which correct me if I am wrong, is not a million miles away from what that scallywag Wilkinshaw was offering all those years ago....

andy97 · 17 Apr 2009, 09:43 (Ref:2442884)

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Originally Posted by john ruston

Not bad being a Wolves fan this week.
Used to play golf with Ron Flowers,smashing bloke.
As for DP its a good bet TW will end up with it and his mate own the Airfield down the road near Towcester

John, off topic, I know but i have been a Wolves fan long enough not to count my chickens....I remember good years (no pun intended) with Dougan and Richards and beating Arsenal 5-1 at home and I remember the very bad years of embarrasing ground and being beaten by Chorley in the cup. I just hope the new regime can make a good go of it for the long term. In a tenuous link to the subject of this thread, the current activities at DP remind of the time when the Bhatti brothers were "running" Wolves and we were sliding in to oblivion with a building plan that nearly caused us to go bankrupt.

zefarelly · 17 Apr 2009, 10:11 (Ref:2442902)

count yourselves lucky your not a Brighton fan!

mind you WOlves have always been very generous to us with the points in the past

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Apr 2009, 10:50 (Ref:2442930)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

that scallywag Wilkinshaw ....

Yes, fortunately Walkinshaw got there first though.

Dave 455 · 17 Apr 2009, 11:09 (Ref:2442955)

Doningtons quote today to Evening Telegraph : -

A Donington Park spokeswoman said: "We are yet to reach an agreement with the governing body so we don't yet know what is going to happen. We are assuming we'll be asked to make alterations to the work carried out."

Story on www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk

terence · 17 Apr 2009, 12:41 (Ref:2443023)

Scallywag????

Assumption being the mother of all ----ups! Perhaps there has been a little too much assumption in the past,like assuming that Bernie REALLY REALLY wants the UK to keep its GP??

Dave 455 · 17 Apr 2009, 13:05 (Ref:2443038)

The official BRSCC view on the meering scheduled for 6th/7th June : -

Although our event scheduled for 6th and 7th June is still seven weeks away, there is obvious concern that this event may still be cancelled. To this end we have been in contact with Donington Park to seek assurance that this event will go ahead.

Donington have now informed us that the cause of the track licence issue is that there is a difference of opinion between the FIA and the MSA on the amount of run-off area required on the infield between McLeans and Coppice. They are awaiting clarification from the FIA which they are hopeful of receiving next week. They have also indicated that the work on the outside run-off’s will be completed before the end of May.

Marcus Mussa · 17 Apr 2009, 15:17 (Ref:2443111)

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Originally Posted by Dave 455

Doningtons quote today to Evening Telegraph : -

A Donington Park spokeswoman said: "We are yet to reach an agreement with the governing body so we don't yet know what is going to happen. We are assuming we'll be asked to make alterations to the work carried out."

Was she a blonde?

grantp · 17 Apr 2009, 15:43 (Ref:2443120)

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Originally Posted by andy97

The airport doesn't need a runway extension, it already has 60-70m of runway extension foundations buried at each end of its existing runway and the runway is already long enough for a fully laden Jumbo to fly to the west coast of the USA.

So I heard but the secondary issue is that they would need additional development height restictions to be able to make use of the available length. It may also give them some alternatives for a second, possibly shorter, runway rather than the proposal to build something to the south.

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Originally Posted by andy97

Industrial or large scale housing development of the DP site is almost impossible as the planning rules regarding development at the end of runways was changed about 10 years ago to make it substanially more difficult to develop.

Hmm, but there is a fair amount of land ostensibly available either side of the normal direct flight path that might be released in some sort of joint deal.

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Originally Posted by andy97

The DP site does straddle the boundary of Derbyshire and Leicestershire but the DP track is solely in Leicestershire (even in its planned new form).

Yep, but the major open area currently not developed is, basically, where the Sunday Market is held (some of which used to be the old Melbourne Loop) and that is mostly in Derbyshire as I recall. Being furthest from the airport it might be the easiest to develop.

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Originally Posted by andy97

I agree with you about the rest of the industrial development in the area, though.

My bet is that the Wheatcroft will regain control, the British GP dream will die, Gillet will never be heard of again, the tunnel "roof" will be extended so that its just suitable for cars and pedestrians again (not artics), the old run offs will be restored and DP will continue to operate as a national racing level track only.

You could be right on that. If the new tunnel, fully extended, could take taller vans it would be a step forward. If the pits don't get built they would not really need the artic capable tunnel anyway. As it was any vehicles heading for the in-field that could not use the Coppice tunnel had to use the crossing that existed where the new tunnel is now and could only do so at certain times of the day - basically before track action started for the day and after track action finished for the day. Not too convenient for the service companies but it has been workable for a couple of decades or more so hardly a show stopper. The new tunnel would still be a worthwhile asset on that basis by allowing more flexibility for infield access even if artic were not viable.

That said there should still be plenty of possibility to dig out enough earth to allow large vehicle access, albeit not without some disruption for foot traffic and maybe sefaty and security and estate vehicles around the circuit - but then when where the specators ever important?

stroller · 17 Apr 2009, 16:09 (Ref:2443133)

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Originally Posted by Dave 455

The official BRSCC view on the meering scheduled for 6th/7th June : -

Although our event scheduled for 6th and 7th June is still seven weeks away, there is obvious concern that this event may still be cancelled. To this end we have been in contact with Donington Park to seek assurance that this event will go ahead.

Donington have now informed us that the cause of the track licence issue is that there is a difference of opinion between the FIA and the MSA on the amount of run-off area required on the infield between McLeans and Coppice. They are awaiting clarification from the FIA which they are hopeful of receiving next week. They have also indicated that the work on the outside run-off’s will be completed before the end of May.

Outside runoffs OK

Seems to me just as big (if not bigger) problem with the runoffs on the inside

rogerwills · 17 Apr 2009, 19:02 (Ref:2443236)

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Originally Posted by Dave 455

Donington have now informed us that the cause of the track licence issue is that there is a difference of opinion between the FIA and the MSA on the amount of run-off area required on the infield between McLeans and Coppice. They are awaiting clarification from the FIA which they are hopeful of receiving next week. They have also indicated that the work on the outside run-off’s will be completed before the end of May.

That doesn't sound good for the Masters event at the start of May......

Mike Bell · 18 Apr 2009, 19:15 (Ref:2444005)

Copy of e-mail received this evening-

THE MASTERS CLASSIC AT DONINGTON PARK, MAY 9/10 – FULL STEAM AHEAD!
Saturday April 18th 2009.

We have received many telephone calls and emails over the last couple of weeks from owners, drivers, preparers, race officials and others asking about the very public problems at the Donington race circuit. We have been very aware of your need for answers and have been working hard to resolve matters.

So that you can all relax, and continue to plan your racing with Masters over the weekend of May 9/10, we can tell you a little more of what we have been doing and what is now happening at Donington.

Following 2 weeks of negotiations, the FIA circuit inspectors have now approved the schedule of works to be carried out to the section of track between McLeans and Coppice corners, and this scheme has obtained the MSA’s agreement also. This process leads to a new circuit operating licence. The CEO and Board of Donington circuit have also confirmed directly to us today, Saturday, that the various works commencing now can be all completed in time for our race meeting.

The MSA, with whom we have maintained a constant dialogue at the most senior level, have stated to us that completing these works and all the required formalities, will lead to the granting of a circuit licence and so, in turn, permitting our Masters Racing Club to have the necessary MSA race permit.

These completed and duly licensed works will mean that you and fellow Masters’ racers will be able to compete on the entire circuit, as in 2008. The recent temporary MSA permit, with its special yellow flag restrictions, as seen at our Test Day 2 weeks ago, and at recent races, will therefore not be required.

Given all these crucial and positive decisions in the past 36 hours, we shall now get back to working hard on the ‘normal activities’ of event planning, to ensure you can all have an enjoyable event at Donington on May 9/10th. Please ensure that anyone else you know who might have been concerned, from your team, mechanics, supporters, truck drivers and all are made aware of this positive message, thank you.

We would like to take this opportunity to thank those many Masters’ members who have sent messages of encouragement; and thanks to our many friends in the industry, particularly our ‘rival’ clubs, who have been both helpful and supportive, while we looked at several options. It has been an unusual and uncertain period for us all, and we are happy to now bring you this good news.

During the next week you will receive further, more normal, race planning information about the Masters Classic at Donington Park on May 9/10th – we look forward to seeing you all there, and to some great racing, much fun - and the fund-raising for Help for Heroes. See you soon!

**Peter Mallett** · 19 Apr 2009, 04:19 (Ref:2444290)

Very encouraging. From a technical perspective I look forward to seeing the changes and what they do.

Dave 455 · 21 Apr 2009, 15:22 (Ref:2446382)

Donington have now instructed See Tickets to stop selling advanced tickets to the Masters Meeting, and the see tickets Donington page lists the meeting as cancelled ? ? ? ?

midgetman · 21 Apr 2009, 18:06 (Ref:2446467)

Someone told me today that Donington has gone into receivership? Don't know how true it is, but it came from a non-motor sport source.

Anyone heard that?

Dave 455 · 21 Apr 2009, 18:07 (Ref:2446468)

Link for 2009 Donington Advance tickets : -

http://www.seetickets.com/doningtonp...=multidonningt

According to this no meetings until BTCC on May 16th/17th.
You could buy Masters Series tickets at the end of last week though.

Piglet · 21 Apr 2009, 18:09 (Ref:2446469)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

Someone told me today that Donington has gone into receivership? Don't know how true it is, but it came from a non-motor sport source.

Anyone heard that?

That one has been doing the rounds for the last couple of weeks and as at last weekend was looking to be untrue. I don't know about any more than that though.

Dave 455 · 21 Apr 2009, 18:23 (Ref:2446480)

The recivership rumour has been around a few weeks, as of yesterday there was 1 digger and 2 workers with spades around the tunnell area, so work slowly continuing? or rather very slowly continuing.

Al Weyman · 21 Apr 2009, 19:50 (Ref:2446550)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

Someone told me today that Donington has gone into receivership? Don't know how true it is, but it came from a non-motor sport source.

Anyone heard that?

Blimey I really am begining to fear the worse for my favourite track, it looks like last years run out there may be my last how on earth has this came about?

Dave 455 · 21 Apr 2009, 19:51 (Ref:2446551)

New article on Donington on speedracing website this morning : -

http://www.speedracinguk.com/news/do...woes-continue/

delta · 22 Apr 2009, 16:02 (Ref:2447101)

Got my copy of motoring news today and the new owner has apologized to us all.

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Apr 2009, 16:31 (Ref:2447118)

Can you expand on that? I don't get MN out here. Ids he saying this is temporary and things will be on track in May or is the Masters event trashed?

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