ILMC Round 7 - 6 Hours of Zhuhai - Page 13

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 06:28 (Ref:2985364)

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Originally Posted by pdxracefan

Exactly. They've been off the pace of the Pugs since the R10. And the drivers (the old guys) have been making mistakes, very uncharacteristic ones even for older, seasoned guys. I think the solution, for one, is to build a car that's a damn sight faster than the competition. Then go from there.

I wonder if Audi is using too much "marketing" technology versus technology that is more tried and true. I don't know about that though. It's hard to think that they have been so outclassed in almost every way (speed, execution, reliability, driving, etc.), but hey, maybe we should give Peugeot some credit too. They've done what was thought to be impossible.

Still, it almost seems like the ARX-01e has had a better ILMC season than the R18 aside from Le Mans. Obviously the ARX-01e isn't better, but at least it met/exceeded expectations for one race. The R18 hasn't done that anywhere except Le Mans. It's mind boggling really.

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 06:33 (Ref:2985366)

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Originally Posted by AGD

I wonder if Audi is using too much "marketing" technology versus technology that is more tried and true. I don't know about that though. It's hard to think that they have been so outclassed in almost every way (speed, execution, reliability, driving, etc.), but hey, maybe we should give Peugeot some credit too. They've done what was thought to be impossible.

Still, it almost seems like the ARX-01e has had a better ILMC season than the R18 aside from Le Mans. Obviously the ARX-01e isn't better, but at least it met/exceeded expectations for one race. The R18 hasn't done that anywhere except Le Mans. It's mind boggling really.

While I feel that Peugeot is not getting enough credit indeed, it is somewhat of their own fault as they mostly fail to perform the one time each year when the world is looking at sports car racing.

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 06:39 (Ref:2985369)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

While I feel that Peugeot is not getting enough credit indeed, it is somewhat of their own fault as they mostly fail to perform the one time each year when the world is looking at sports car racing.

Peugeot definitely has to improve their Le Mans batting average. One Le Mans means more than 2-3 championships IMO. Still, a lot of people think that Audi and Toyota has more of an aura than Peugeot. Well, it was a long time ago, but Peugeot owned Toyota back in the day and Peugeot owns Audi most of the time now. Maybe Peugeot is the secret king after all.

Pandamasque · 13 Nov 2011, 06:39 (Ref:2985370)

What an awesome bit of rallying by the R8 quattro!

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 06:43 (Ref:2985372)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Peugeot definitely has to improve their Le Mans batting average. One Le Mans means more than 2-3 championships IMO. Still, a lot of people think that Audi and Toyota has more of an aura than Peugeot. Well, it was a long time ago, but Peugeot owned Toyota back in the day and Peugeot owns Audi most of the time now. Maybe Peugeot is the secret king after all.

Well if we talk sports cars only, nobody can argue that Peugeot is miles ahead of Toyota. They had the beautiful GT-One which everybody loved but that car was no real success either and neither were most of their Group C efforts.

Audi is a bit out of reach, they´ve build a remarkable heritage in sports car racing, even though one can argue that a good share of their success was based on no real competitors being around for many years.

It will be interesting to see how Peugeot does against Porsche come 2014. Beating Porsche at Le Mans would give them huge bragging rights and do wonders for their sports car racing heritage.

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 06:47 (Ref:2985374)

Looks like the #2 Audi is retiring.

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 06:48 (Ref:2985375)

Wow, quite the horror year for Tom K. No win, no single race lap at Le Mans...yikes.

henk4 · 13 Nov 2011, 06:52 (Ref:2985378)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Wow, quite the horror year for Tom K. No win, no single race lap at Le Mans...yikes.

he won together with Kenny Brack at the Goodwood Revival....

NelisB · 13 Nov 2011, 06:53 (Ref:2985380)

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Originally Posted by henk4

he won together with Kenny Brack at the Goodwood Revival....

Could be a whole new career, classic sportscar racer.

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 06:57 (Ref:2985382)

I think we can take some pretty good guesses about who will be the full-time drivers for Peugeot next year, but what about Audi? Lotterer and/or Treluyer would be great, but they have other commitments and it seems there will be some Super GT and WEC clashes. Bernhard makes sense, but do you continue to pair him with Fassler? Fassler hasn't been that bad so I think you would have to consider him. What about McNish and TK?

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 07:01 (Ref:2985384)

I think both McNish and TK are safe despite their bad season. Audi can't really afford to let McNish go and TK is worth his money for Audi Denmark alone I guess.

The other drivers are more of a problem, aside from Rockenfeller and Fässler all other drivers of their current squad are just on loan. Lotterer is likely to go to Toyota I think, if Nissan is the rumored other Japanese manufacturer then they can kiss Treluyer goodbye as well.

The Porsche guys are gone by 2014 as well so if worse comes worse, Audi has 5+ seats to fill in the coming years.

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:02 (Ref:2985385)

The #94 R8 is beached quite close to the track. FCY possibility?

EDIT: Safety car

EDIT2: Maybe not. There is confusion whether there is FCY or not. It seems we have FCY but no safety car. Odd.

Pandamasque · 13 Nov 2011, 07:03 (Ref:2985386)

Another R8 goes rallying.

That is NOT a Sefety Car! O_o

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:07 (Ref:2985389)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

I think both McNish and TK are safe despite their bad season. Audi can't really afford to let McNish go and TK is worth his money for Audi Denmark alone I guess.

The other drivers are more of a problem, aside from Rockenfeller and Fässler all other drivers of their current squad are just on loan. Lotterer is likely to go to Toyota I think, if Nissan is the rumored other Japanese manufacturer then they can kiss Treluyer goodbye as well.

The Porsche guys are gone by 2014 as well so if worse comes worse, Audi has 5+ seats to fill in the coming years.

Is Rocky committed to the DTM next year? That would obviously rule him out if he is. I wonder if all these DTM conflicts could end up being beneficial to Audi. Maybe they can use it as an excuse to get some fresh blood into the organization.

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Another R8 goes rallying.

That is NOT a Sefety Car! O_o

They threw a FCY without a safety car. Someone pulled an oops. The bottom line is that there is no safety car.

NelisB · 13 Nov 2011, 07:14 (Ref:2985392)

Love how the RLM guys are questioning McNish why they have been off the pace the whole year...

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 07:19 (Ref:2985393)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Is Rocky committed to the DTM next year? That would obviously rule him out if he is. I wonder if all these DTM conflicts could end up being beneficial to Audi. Maybe they can use it as an excuse to get some fresh blood into the organization.

Audi has more suitable drivers that cockpits for the DTM in 2012 so I wouldn't be surprised to see Rockenfeller doing sports cars, he always seemed more like a sports car guy to me and hasn't been one of Audi's top performers in the DTM.

Fresh blood is definitely needed at Audi on the sports car side, with so many manufacturers coming in there actually could be a shortage of suitable works drivers in the coming years.

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 07:26 (Ref:2985394)

Eurosport will be on air in five minutes to show the final 90 minutes

Pandamasque · 13 Nov 2011, 07:30 (Ref:2985395)

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Originally Posted by AGD

They threw a FCY without a safety car. Someone pulled an oops. The bottom line is that there is no safety car.

That was a massive forklift though.

CTD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:40 (Ref:2985397)

Morning fellers.
Just joining in the ILMC race

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:43 (Ref:2985398)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Morning fellers.
Just joining in the ILMC race

Morning. Odd that you're checking in now when everyone else has checked out!

henk4 · 13 Nov 2011, 07:43 (Ref:2985399)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Morning fellers.
Just joining in the ILMC race

welcome, the race is actually over....

Acid09 · 13 Nov 2011, 07:44 (Ref:2985400)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Morning fellers.
Just joining in the ILMC race

Almost five hours too late, I´m afraid the exciting stuff is pretty much over

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:48 (Ref:2985401)

Did Hindy go to sleep or something? He checked out of the broadcast like 20 minutes ago and it sounds like he isn't coming back.

Asa · 13 Nov 2011, 07:48 (Ref:2985402)

The Yokai Univ. entry seems to have lost a wheel or is it suspension problem?

AGD · 13 Nov 2011, 07:50 (Ref:2985403)

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Originally Posted by Asa

The Yokai Univ. entry seems to have lost a wheel or is it suspension problem?

It looked like it was missing the LR wheel.

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