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https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...973750272?s=21
Looks like another white-based livery... Lots of black and white so far, hope to see a lot more colour on media day! |
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So, the final 32nd seat that apparently we are all foaming at the mouth over
A real surprise to come or just a 'regular' deal that hasn't been made public yet? |
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21 Mar 2018, 13:39 (Ref:3809618) | #3307 | ||
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Still no skirts on the Honda?
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21 Mar 2018, 14:16 (Ref:3809626) | #3310 | |
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Some funky angles going on with the Civic's front wheel arch extensions trying to incorporate the road car's vented front wings. Seems a very different direction compared to the 'normal' boxy NGTC style, wonder if that'd the finished design or still to be completed?
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21 Mar 2018, 15:57 (Ref:3809643) | #3312 | |
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I'm not a fan of the BMW livery, it doesn't look very good on the M8 GTE or the DTM cars either. I think the livery in 2017 in IMSA and in GT3 in resent years looks way better. It looks passible in the launch photos, on track it looks terrible around the bonnet/wheel arch.
Odd that the Honda is still without sills. I don't think they are going for a Peugeot 208 R5 style body work in that area as it looks more unfinished than anything. Wouldn't have thought it was a major design task, maybe that's where they came up with something clever and ToCA keep knocking the ideas back. |
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21 Mar 2018, 16:12 (Ref:3809645) | #3313 | ||
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The cars look better without those plasticy sills (imo).
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21 Mar 2018, 18:22 (Ref:3809667) | #3315 | |
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New cars looking good, can’t wait see to the final liveries
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21 Mar 2018, 19:11 (Ref:3809681) | #3316 | |
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21 Mar 2018, 20:18 (Ref:3809698) | #3317 | ||
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I guess the Honda aero is subject to understanding the car and how best to design any aero to improve it. Do they have the benefit of any wind tunnel time / simulation? Would not surprise me if it evolves over the first round or two... it is a brand new chapter after all.
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21 Mar 2018, 20:58 (Ref:3809718) | #3318 | |
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I'm wondering if the side skirts thing with the civic is just down to the fact their late finishing the build and would rather test what's already there rather than lose track time to a pair of skirts that probably don't do much anyway
All the cars are looking great so far. Not a Subaru fan but hoping they've changed their livery up a bit this year as that's a good looking car also. One thing that does worry me with Subaru is where do they go after the Levorg because Subaru have really cut their range down in the UK in recent years and the only other cars they sell here apart from the Levorg are 4x4s and Legacy Outbacks |
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21 Mar 2018, 21:06 (Ref:3809721) | #3319 | ||
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Subaru road cars are either now (or headed to) being exclusively 4WD with auto boxes. Apart from the bigger beasts exclusively petrol too. Niche market at best; must be turning a profit for someone though I now can't name a single dealer: I personally knew half dozen and they've all ended their relationship with Subaru in the past few years.
(Exception being the BRZ coupe, but that is another niche model; small seller too). |
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Sutton really proved himself last year; I seriously think bigger and better things than BTCC are easily in his reach. Maybe a co-ride for Bathurst next year? Be a good way to get a taster... |
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22 Mar 2018, 06:54 (Ref:3809800) | #3322 | |
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Same round here. About 10-15 years ago The petrol station owner and long standing Subaru dealer that had been selling them to farmers since the early days, started a Skoda dealership along side, then dropped Subaru, closed the petrol station and eventually got bought out by a bigger chain that's now Skoda and Seat.
Since then the local Mazda dealer has tried to introduce both Subaru and Mitsubishi but neither have lasted more than 6-12 months! |
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22 Mar 2018, 08:43 (Ref:3809818) | #3323 | |
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A shame, because Subaru America proves it can be done. And they include motorsport within their marketing mix.
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22 Mar 2018, 09:03 (Ref:3809821) | #3324 | |
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The problem with Subaru (and Mitsubishi for that matter) is that unlike all the other Asian brands, they've never really matured and improved to the levels of the Europeans. They're still producing the same 'Japanese Cars' that they did in the 80's, cheap, rudimentary models that now feel outdated. Don't get me wrong there's still a market for that, as Suzuki have proven (though not in the US where they’ve had to pull out), but it's not mass market. Not when everyone wants a Range Rover or BMW/Audi/Mercedes (but settles for a Kia or Hyundai due to budget).
The worst part is that they've dropped the ball on reliability in recent years which was one of their few saving graces and even fallen behind the Koreans in terms of desirability! |
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problem with subaru is mention the name and most folk or most petrolheads think McRae and Burns rallying, that was late 90's. To be fair the late 90's cars the impreza and legacy were good motors. We have a legacy twin turbo auto, 240 bhp, hold tight, foot down and eat modern hot hatches
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