Acura/HPD's future plans - Page 139

Senna-F1God · 9 May 2015, 09:21 (Ref:3535749)

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Originally Posted by deggis

In P2 there was no similar rules change for 2014 as there was in P1. And which of those you mentioned just bolted on a cockpit on a previously open cockpit car?

Even the maximum dimensions of the cars has changed (not to mention many other less visible things). Laughable if you think you can just shrink the car, add a cockpit and somehow after all that keep the same overall aero concept not to mention actually be competitive with such a hack car.

Yep, ask LOLA how hard it is to add a roof to a perennial chassis...

No you can't they went bankrupt.

Shortening suspension arms and redesign the aero around it is straight up work, and In two week time ready with CFD help by Wirth...

The concept won't change a **** as it will be more efficient and so adding a higher degree of performance. Namely top speed to a great balanced racecar, the AWD would turn the ARX02 concept into a serial killer.

But if anyone doubts it, put the money ahead and I would be happy to prove you all wrong.

In the worse case scenario I would do better than Nismo... Cough cough

deggis · 9 May 2015, 10:08 (Ref:3535756)

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1God

Yep, ask LOLA how hard it is to add a roof to a perennial chassis...

You didn't mention Lola, but more importantly, did they shrink the dimensions too? No.

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Shortening suspension arms and redesign the aero around it is straight up work, and In two week time ready with CFD help by Wirth...

The concept won't change a **** as it will be more efficient and so adding a higher degree of performance. Namely top speed to a great balanced racecar, the AWD would turn the ARX02 concept into a serial killer.

Hot air.

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But if anyone doubts it, put the money ahead and I would be happy to prove you all wrong.

I would be happy to invent the cure for cancer if someone just gave me money.

templer · 9 May 2015, 11:49 (Ref:3535784)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senna-F1God

Yep, ask LOLA how hard it is to add a roof to a perennial chassis...

No you can't they went bankrupt.

Shortening suspension arms and redesign the aero around it is straight up work, and In two week time ready with CFD help by Wirth...

The concept won't change a **** as it will be more efficient and so adding a higher degree of performance. Namely top speed to a great balanced racecar, the AWD would turn the ARX02 concept into a serial killer.

But if anyone doubts it, put the money ahead and I would be happy to prove you all wrong.

In the worse case scenario I would do better than Nismo... Cough cough

BTW Wirth Research has had already a coupe based on the ARX-02a in the pipeline and it was ditched after the rule change.

If you want to go to AWD you need a total redesign as you need the electric motors, the driveshafts, the engery storage and so on. You need a totally new monocoque and changed weight distribution and so on. In fact a new car.

And you did a new aero in two weeks.

Sorry guy but it seems you have really no idea how such a car is designed and what counts

hondafan37 · 9 May 2015, 14:49 (Ref:3535837)

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Originally Posted by templer

BTW Wirth Research has had already a coupe based on the ARX-02a in the pipeline and it was ditched after the rule change.

If you want to go to AWD you need a total redesign as you need the electric motors, the driveshafts, the engery storage and so on. You need a totally new monocoque and changed weight distribution and so on. In fact a new car.

And you did a new aero in two weeks.

Sorry guy but it seems you have really no idea how such a car is designed and what counts

The ARX 04a was the coupe for lmp1. The project had the V6 of 2.2 Honda of Indy and a Magneti Marelli hybrid sistem.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/h...ject-unlikely/

templer · 9 May 2015, 15:25 (Ref:3535849)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

The ARX 04a was the coupe for lmp1. The project had the V6 of 2.2 Honda of Indy and a Magneti Marelli hybrid sistem.
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/h...ject-unlikely/

A clearly no. Wirth Research has already developed a LMP1 coupe on the base of the ARX-02a from 2009 to 2011. It did never start as HPD has no interest and Wirth did not find customers to run the car itself. The ARX-04a was a completely new design to provide a customer car with full hybrid systems up to 8 MJ according to the new rules. The car was too expensive and Honda Japan stopped the whole project last year.

hondafan37 · 9 May 2015, 16:32 (Ref:3535874)

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Originally Posted by templer

A clearly no. Wirth Research has already developed a LMP1 coupe on the base of the ARX-02a from 2009 to 2011. It did never start as HPD has no interest and Wirth did not find customers to run the car itself. The ARX-04a was a completely new design to provide a customer car with full hybrid systems up to 8 MJ according to the new rules. The car was too expensive and Honda Japan stopped the whole project last year.

I also had read about that coupe from 2009 to 2011. The ARX 04a was desing for Wirth Research too. I suppose like this new car incorporates many design concepts of that car, of course updated to now moment.

Damian Baldi · 9 May 2015, 19:25 (Ref:3535931)

There wasn't an HPD arm of the F1's hybrid car too?

This was from England and Japan
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...brid-f1-car/2/

How distant all this looks, they are talking about kilojoules instead megajoules.

hondafan37 · 9 May 2015, 19:49 (Ref:3535938)

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Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

There wasn't an HPD arm of the F1's hybrid car too?

It was a development of Honda Racing F1. I think that HPD not participate in the project.http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...hybrid-f1-car/

Bobby_status · 12 May 2015, 18:29 (Ref:3536811)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Has Honda (not HPD) ever cared about Le Mans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGe88c7nNYA

I believe this was the only works effort Honda ever did at LeMans.

asd23 · 17 Jun 2015, 19:26 (Ref:3551638)

http://sportscar365.com/industry/hon...at-pikes-peak/

GT6 · 17 Jun 2015, 19:59 (Ref:3551647)

well i suppose you have to find something to do with the old car

hondafan37 · 24 Jun 2015, 14:03 (Ref:3553609)

The car to Pikes Peak
http://www.racer.com/north-american-...-at-pikes-peak

kvenom · 24 Jun 2015, 14:52 (Ref:3553617)

Didn't even make the 1st practice due to "problems" lol. This car is a dog/cursed.

Richard C · 25 Jun 2015, 02:47 (Ref:3553775)

And... apparently they have pulled out completely due to engine damage. Apparently no spare engine available in time for the race.

At least it shows that Nissan doesn't own the exclusive rights to showing how not to do it.

Richard

Rcz · 25 Jun 2015, 04:30 (Ref:3553781)

Gee, why do Honda engines suck right now? They need to test those engine a bit more you know.

Christian Mogami · 25 Jun 2015, 05:07 (Ref:3553783)

They lost the spare engine too!!! It went boom like the primary engine!

Somebody at HPD didn't do their homework correct or forgot it must race over two miles up!

TzeiTzei · 25 Jun 2015, 05:20 (Ref:3553784)

Fits quite nicely in to the tale of ARX 04b. This car could become a legend. For all the wrong reasons.

Deleted · 25 Jun 2015, 15:55 (Ref:3553895)

It was admirable plan. Utterly crap execution.

The most beautiful LMP in the world right now IMO. In total ruins

kvenom · 25 Jun 2015, 16:03 (Ref:3553897)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

The most beautiful LMP in the world right now IMO.

I'd go with the Dome S103, but unfortunately that car seems to be a bit crap as well.

wdave0 · 26 Jun 2015, 13:18 (Ref:3554060)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

It was admirable plan. Utterly crap execution.

The most beautiful LMP in the world right now IMO. In total ruins

This saga is getting downright Nissanesque.

Victor_RO · 26 Jun 2015, 15:28 (Ref:3554078)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

This saga is getting downright Nissanesque.

I reckon we'll soon have Acuraesque as an even worse epithet to throw towards a racing programme if this keeps up as it does so far.

Deleted · 26 Jun 2015, 16:05 (Ref:3554084)

But at least HPD doesn't have PR department that causes one to consider suicide, though.

So in this decade, you had Jaguar as laughing stock in 2010-2012, Lotus in 2011-2012, Aston Martin in 2011, Mazda in 2014-?, Nissan in 2015, HPD in 2015

kvenom · 26 Jun 2015, 17:11 (Ref:3554099)

HPD's indycar bodykits are a bit of a mess as well aren't they? Consistently beaten by Chevy this season. Maybe its time to end their association with Wirth?

carbon_titanium · 26 Jun 2015, 17:12 (Ref:3554100)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

But at least HPD doesn't have PR department that causes one to consider suicide, though.

So in this decade, you had Jaguar as laughing stock in 2010-2012, Lotus in 2011-2012, Aston Martin in 2011, Mazda in 2014-?, Nissan in 2015, HPD in 2015

delta wing and all his variations in 2012-
pescarolo 03 in 2012
LG corvette in 2009

anyway 2015 isn't at all the best year for honda...

carbon_titanium · 26 Jun 2015, 17:13 (Ref:3554102)

2011 reiter gallardo GTE.... another great example to how don't develope a car

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