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We will just have to wait and see - but I beg to differ as I think this is more than 'rumour and hint.... There was plenty of rumour and hint about Toyota for several years before they made the announcement - Nissan have got themselves involved in the much more measured, official and visible way which they are continuing to develop.
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A little disappointed at the news but what the heck it certainly got everyone talking and lets hope it does lead to something more that just a 56 entry
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I don't mind so long as an entirely silent LMP1 car isn't the end result. Having the first half a dozen cars whisper past when the tricola drops at Le Mans is still something I haven't got used to and I don't think I ever will. It will sadden me when the front-running cars at Le Mans are quieter still.
You can call me backwards, a dinosaur or whatever but I go to Le Mans to enjoy myself and forget the world. For that to happen I need my senses stimulated. Take away the sound, you take away half the fun. If I only watched on TV I'd probably not be bothered. When I watched the preview video I was quite exciting because you could hear an internal combustion engine revving up. I find it odd that they chose that noise in the teaser. That may sound strange to some but this is my immediate reaction. |
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Toyota's (TMG's) EV P002 has 350kw from it's two axial flux motors... http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/en/...-pikes-peak-en
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Nissan gained a lot of publicity for really nothing substantial by simply jumping on the DW bandwagon (and quite late at that), now they're back in g56 to repeat the feat. Looking how they're trying to change LMP1 rules to accommodate something 'different' means more of the same: not a lot of competing on equal terms, lots of publicity. This could potentially damage the sport more than strengthen it! EDIT: sorry, didn't see the new dedicated thread on this http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136730 |
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The move towards 'trendy technology' is what is making Le Mans popular again with the manufacturers - which I think is a good thing. By its very nature everytime a manufacturer wants to bring along something new then it is inevitable that the ACO will have to set the parameters and rules to control it.
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Even F1 which is really just a massive money making machine appreciates that the sound of racing cars is important, so the ACO and others must take note yes to alternative technology but care must be taken that in the process you do not destroy the heart of the beast
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We will see if the lack of noise is balanced by the visual performance. I'm not sure that a full electric powered car will make less noise than a R18.
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Any pictures of the car in Le Mans this year????
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Besides one or two EV will add to the variety. I would agree that I wouldn't want to see a grid full, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. |
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Yes, looking to return. If whatever this actually is, works perfectly well, and can be made competitive to the other cars, if the NISMO board approves it, and if they can somehow convince the ACO to change their rules to accomodate them. That is a lot of if. |
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If you do go to Nissan's website though, you can see that they are planning on Hydrogen/Electric vehicles more than Hybird. This is likely what this car will be. http://www.nissanusa.com/future-and-...-vehicles.html |
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Initially, I was disappointed. After thinking it over, it's okay news, not great news.
They are still committed to Sportscars/WEC - so that is good, the more Manufacturers the better!! I understand the view of people who think Nissan are milking the publicity of Le Mans without actually taking part. What I do want to see though, is discussion of the future rules/ regs of the sport. The 2014 regs are too restrictive - who decided on them? I'd like to see a joint top class; LMP1 v GTPrototypes.....so those Manufacturers who prefer to use a Road car template can, say a SuperGT type car. Will it happen? Not likely. |
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Don't know if this has already been asked or not, but does anyone care to make a guess as to just how competitive this entry might be? The Deltawing was pretty fast, how close to the front of the grid can we realistically expect this entry to get?
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