Acura/HPD's future plans - Page 141

August · 9 Jul 2015, 20:52 (Ref:3557115)

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Originally Posted by seanyb505

Yeah...I see HPD fading from sportscars. I guess they could use the engine in 17, but do they have anyone actually racing with one now? HPD body work...that seems to be doing super well right now...

MSR are racing with the Honda engine.

As for HPD bodywork, I wouldn't say the ARX-04B failure would mean they couldn't succeed in '17. The IMSA P2 bodykits are just styling cues, not to improve performance. I almost feel more confident of having Honda than Ford in IMSA P class in '17 as Ford next year there may be no Ford-powered team in the P class.

HORNDAWG · 9 Jul 2015, 21:54 (Ref:3557131)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Every Le Mans-winning Audi chassis up to 2012 or something?

2013 R18, Ycom was 2014......

L.P.

Coach Ep · 9 Jul 2015, 21:56 (Ref:3557132)

With Riley/Multimatic selected as one of the 'holy ones' I would still expect Ford to be involved with a prototype effort again come 2017 (or perhaps 2018) once the GTE effort is truly established.

TF110 · 9 Jul 2015, 23:45 (Ref:3557145)

I wonder if any manufacturer will contact a riley or dallara to add brand specific bodywork to their 'dp-p2'? I bet Bentley does at the least some aspects (headlights and nose is what I expect).

Beryl · 9 Jul 2015, 23:59 (Ref:3557149)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

But more to the point. When was the last time Dallara supplier a non-spec customer chassis that was competitive?

F3. Yes, F3. Contrary to popular belief, (true) F3 isn't and has never been a spec category. However, over the years, Dallara has built such a strong pseudo-monopoly in the category that hardly anyone ever attempts to challenge their hegemony. From time to time someone does, but they quickly realize it's an unprofitable venture and promptly pull out.

Pandamasque · 10 Jul 2015, 06:29 (Ref:3557214)

Which I assume will be Dallara's objective in P2

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Maybe they are just scared of provoking the ACO in fear of never getting their names to Le Mans anymore.

It's not like they will anyway. Not under the current rule set. Probably not under the current ACO leadership either (fool me once...).

Christian Mogami · 10 Jul 2015, 17:30 (Ref:3557359)

NSX GT3/GT

Coach Ep · 10 Jul 2015, 18:03 (Ref:3557367)

Indycar

TF110 · 10 Jul 2015, 19:01 (Ref:3557382)

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Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

NSX GT3/GT

Yup, http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11912...et-to-conclude. Maybe sans hybrid?

lms · 10 Jul 2015, 20:18 (Ref:3557401)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Yup, http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11912...et-to-conclude. Maybe sans hybrid?

wow! extra cars in p1 and potentially in gte! killing off many p2 contructors might be the best thing that happened to sportscar racing!

Dyson Mazda · 19 Jul 2015, 03:21 (Ref:3559455)

It sounds like they are considering a future in IMSA with a prototype package. I guess they could fit their current P2 bodywork plus an HPD engine on a Dallara and have a very similar package to what they wanted to run anyways.

http://sportscar365.com/industry/hpd...e-involvement/

Articus · 19 Jul 2015, 04:42 (Ref:3559461)

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Deleted · 19 Jul 2015, 17:35 (Ref:3559548)

I guess it's something to go on, they could even dub it "Honda P2" or whatever, but the death of actual HPD engineering department sure is upon us.

Not so long ago they still circulated on offering the 04 LMP1 *if someone just came along*, now even that seems to be killed off even if someone magically did want the chassis. At least judging by some of these new comments

**joeb** · 19 Jul 2015, 18:10 (Ref:3559557)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I guess it's something to go on, they could even dub it "Honda P2" or whatever, but the death of actual HPD engineering department sure is upon us.

Not so long ago they still circulated on offering the 04 LMP1 *if someone just came along*, now even that seems to be killed off even if someone magically did want the chassis. At least judging by some of these new comments

There is even talk of pulling out of indycar when their contract ends. So it could indeed be near the end for hpd.....

Deleted · 19 Jul 2015, 19:32 (Ref:3559569)

Well, it's been almost a ten decade journey in sportscars with many good memories bot under Acura and HPD titles, but every era has to stop eventually...

The external bodywork + engine deals for one market place with nothing else going on would/will be like hanging to life support machine, not quite gone but not really with us either?

Articus · 19 Jul 2015, 21:16 (Ref:3559586)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I guess it's something to go on, they could even dub it "Honda P2" or whatever, but the death of actual HPD engineering department sure is upon us.

You should know that HPD does a whole lot more than just the P2 cars and Indycar.....in the grand scheme of things, HPD's engineering department would exist with our without these programs. Moving on to new programs. IF you think HPD will be shuttered down, that would be wrong.

Deleted · 19 Jul 2015, 22:21 (Ref:3559608)

Clarify, HPD's sportscar engineering department

HORNDAWG · 19 Jul 2015, 23:32 (Ref:3559621)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Clarify, HPD's sportscar engineering department

So you mean the bespoke prototypes construction for HPD by Wirth Engineering. They still produce engines for other Sportscar efforts, Micheal Shank Racing (Ligier/HPD), Extreme Speed Motorsport (Ligier/HPD) and one of Oak's Ligiers are running HPD power.

L.P.

L.P.

Deleted · 19 Jul 2015, 23:35 (Ref:3559622)

HPD's sportscar chassis engineering department.

Deleted · 20 Nov 2015, 21:39 (Ref:3591826)

It's getting to a state of being not only bleak, but plain terrible.

They wanted ARX-04 somehow still back on track for 2016, but no-one is going for it, incl the rumored/considered PR1 whom just continue to stick with LMPC. The chassis is dead property unless HPD hires a team to run it themselves, which they won't.

Oak has pulled out of HPD engine deals.

And now ESM, partnering fully with Oak, is saying that they haven't decided whether to stick with HPD engine for next year or to just bring up Nissan. So just by considering it they are basically admitting their relationship with HPD is pretty hollow right now.

TF110 · 21 Nov 2015, 02:15 (Ref:3591884)

Hpd are almost about hopeless. At least in the sportscar scene. If Indy proves difficult again, I dont know if they have much credibility left. Theyll need a rethink and reboot.

Articus · 21 Nov 2015, 03:34 (Ref:3591894)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Hpd are almost about hopeless. At least in the sportscar scene. If Indy proves difficult again, I dont know if they have much credibility left. Theyll need a rethink and reboot.

They really just need a clean sheet NSX GTE. Exit the the prototype game for which they are not known in the public. Atleast with an NSX, Acura can generate good publicity.

kvenom · 21 Nov 2015, 20:13 (Ref:3592235)

Is Nick Wirth still associated with them?

MoMedic9019 · 21 Nov 2015, 21:56 (Ref:3592255)

Honda is funneling all of their money/resources at the F1 project currently. HPD will lease car/engines/engineering to a team with money, but, it's not going to be cheap at all. That's what PR1 ran into... too much moola.

Makaze · 23 Nov 2015, 23:38 (Ref:3592833)

With Porsche getting the waiver for the 2017 911 RSR GTE for being mid-engine,that will most likely lead to a waiver for Honda's NSX Hybrid GTE too.

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