[WEC] Toyota LMP1 Discussion

[Accident]

Good job Toyota. Take the one part of your livery that made it at least stand out a little from the other two lame liveries run in the class, and throw that away.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by kvenom

Woah brand new Gazoo Racing livery

Red black and white

Much,much better.

[YorkshireLad]

The livery is awful the old one complimented the cars shapes..

[Giba]

Red and white for me are the colours that a Toyota should race in. Not sure about the livery but hopefully it suits the new car more.

[TF110]

That's just a mockup on the old car. The final livery might look a little different going by the commentary during the press conference.

Here's a side shot of the new vs old car


You can see the updated chassis shape. The roofline really is tighter.

[MyNameIsNigel]

Originally Posted by kvenom

So much for the livery diversity then. Red, black and white again. I am not blaming Toyota though, but the evident lack of inspiration in terms of liveries that the manufacturers are suffering from at the moment.

[TF110]

But Toyota has historically been red. They were blue these past 4 years because the hybrid aspect. Audi and Porsche have yet to show their livery so we should wait to see what they have. I never confused Audi and Porsche last year. Imo, they look nothing alike despite being predominantly white.

[Japanese Samurai]

Where is a logo of the battery supplier?

[bentley speed 8]

Don't know what to feel about the new livery. The blue livery was really nice looking and a shame that we lost that.

Originally Posted by TF110

I never confused Audi and Porsche last year. Imo, they look nothing alike despite being predominantly white.

Yes, I also think the three manufacturers are different enough to be recognized. But again, it is so difficult to design something pleasing to the eye and run it for the whole championship (and not just Le Mans)?

[Japanese Samurai]

There isn't a NISSHINBO logo in 2016 liveries car.
But there seems no alternative logo.

[gustavobamba]

The livery is the expected... because of the Gazzo racing colors IMHO

Like that video from Porsche 2016 testing, i think this images Toyota release are from 2015 aero with the new engine.

[GasperG]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Where is a logo of the battery supplier?

What are you implying? Is there any chance the supplier is not Panasonic?
Maybe it's build by Toyota, as far as I know they do have their own battery research, but I doubt they can produce more than prototype.

[Japanese Samurai]

Battery is one of the most important parts in hybrid car.
So, battery supplier should be a technical partner of Toyota.
However, its logo isn't found in today's 2016 livery.
(Nisshinbo logo was already removed.)

[PascaLM]

The white-black-red fashion strikes again. A nice livery but which begins to be boring.

[sssssssss]

the black on the front fenders really looks bad. i suppose it should compensate for the bulky shape, but i'm not sure it's doing any good in terms of looks.

hopefully audi will go back to silver, as 2015 proved they can lose le mans (and wec) in the typical german-winning white livery, not just in the typical german-winning silver livery as in 2009.

and maybe porsche will do the same color trick they did at le mans in 2015, i liked that a lot.

[Akrapovic]

Beautiful livery and car. Shame it's the same colour as Audi and Porsche again, and Rebellion for that matter. But it is a good looking car for sure!

[Ephaeton]

I don't mind going to red "again"

[Starfish Primer]

Private teams have better liveries than manufacturers. For example, Rebellion, KCMG, G-Drive, Falken or Dempsey. The only exception to me are Alpine and Mazda.

[Accident]

I wouldn't mind the red if it was primarily red, but as it is it's yet another primarily white car, with some red and a neutral (grey or silver or black in this case). I'd be plenty satisfied with some TS020 throwback liveries.

It confuses me a bit how these manufacturers are signing off on these boring same-y color choices, as that seems like one of the easiest things to do to draw some eyes to your car. Doesn't someone at Toyota look at the livery and ask "hm it's okay, but can't we do something to set ourselves apart from the others a bit more?" or something?

I agree that isn't easy to mix the cars up exactly, but rather it makes the whole thing feel a bit more boring somehow.

[LC2guy]

Very Disappointing Livery IMHO. From a distance they will all look very similar.

[kvenom]

Also Matthias Beche is still in contact with Toyota, if Hirakawa doesn't get the testing role maybe he's a candidate. Adrian Sutil also tested the TS040 recently as well.

[J Jay]

Not bad on the livery front, but not good either. I wonder if the livery simply isn't given the time of day, or if the partners/suits prefer a generic livery rather than risk something more daring.

[TF110]

You guys should probably read their press release if you're concerned with the livery. And when did we see Audi or Porsche's new livery? They could be totally different.
http://www.toyotahybridracing.com/re...for-a-new-era/

As well as an updated logo, a 2015 show car displayed the new black, white and red livery which will be modified for the TS050 HYBRID. This revised colour scheme follows the team’s adoption of the TOYOTA GAZOO Racing name in May last year, signifying the increasing importance of motorsport to TOYOTA.

I bolded for emphasis. It may not change much, but the livery is near the exact same as every show car during the press conference! That's probably not going to stay the same come March 24th.

On Sutil, Autohebdo and Motorsport-total are reporting he tested the 040 and could be in the running for reserve driver.

[DistortedSmile]

I'm hoping the TS050 will have more aesthetically pleasing headlights than anything else, I'd like to see something like this again:


But I agree the new livery is quite dull, hope it looks better on the new car.
Also inb4 Adam43 complaining about people complaining about the new livery.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

Private teams have better liveries than manufacturers. For example, Rebellion, KCMG, G-Drive, Falken or Dempsey. The only exception to me are Alpine and Mazda.

Neither of which is manufacturer... "Alpine" is just rebranded Oreca run by mediocre Signatech team and "Mazda" rebranded Lola run by mediocre Speedsource team. But at least "Mazda" here actually does throw (some) pennies at the project, and provides the engines, unlike the other name issued here which does nothing.

But yes I agree with your sentiment fully.