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Old 1 Aug 2016, 23:05 (Ref:3662950)   #3776
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It's why we haven't seen it and likely will not see a Road America 500 again.
The ALMS was headed for a six hour event prior to the merger....We may see it again. The BoD wants a longer event.
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Old 3 Aug 2016, 18:48 (Ref:3663291)   #3777
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Would love to see a 125 lapper at Road America, making it part of the NAEC seems right.

What this I hear about the integration of TCR? It's a touring car class that runs 30mins races so I don't see this become a part of any existing series in IMSA ladder. And I don't feel it should replace ST, as I heard these a more expensive. I have heard IMSA having a sprint Touring car series way back in the 80s on YouTube. Maybe they are trying to have that come back.
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Old 3 Aug 2016, 18:57 (Ref:3663293)   #3778
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What this I hear about the integration of TCR? It's a touring car class that runs 30mins races so I don't see this become a part of any existing series in IMSA ladder. And I don't feel it should replace ST, as I heard these a more expensive. I have heard IMSA having a sprint Touring car series way back in the 80s on YouTube. Maybe they are trying to have that come back.
Just because a class wasn't designed for a certain job doesn't mean it's incapable of doing it. The Oreca FLM09 was originally made for short sprint races, but it has worked out well for endurance runs as well with minimal alterations.

That said, I doubt ST will actually be changing since it still attracts sufficiently large grids. TCR is likely being looked at as a direction should that change.
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Old 3 Aug 2016, 19:44 (Ref:3663309)   #3779
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Hey if they want those OEM dollars, then they should go for. I'm pretty sure there is some interest.But it really was built with sprint races in mind.

How would you name this series? Go retro and call it the International Sedan Series or call it the United States Touring Car Championship?
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Old 3 Aug 2016, 20:31 (Ref:3663319)   #3780
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USTCC is already A Thing.

Bring back the defunct NATCC with NGTC spec cars.
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Hey if they want those OEM dollars, then they should go for. I'm pretty sure there is some interest.But it really was built with sprint races in mind.

How would you name this series? Go retro and call it the International Sedan Series or call it the United States Touring Car Championship?


TCR cars run in the 24h series in Europe in 12 and 24 hour races just fine. I think they are fitted with an endurance pack for those races.

You are right though, they were intended for sprint


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Just because a class wasn't designed for a certain job doesn't mean it's incapable of doing it. The Oreca FLM09 was originally made for short sprint races, but it has worked out well for endurance runs as well with minimal alterations.

That said, I doubt ST will actually be changing since it still attracts sufficiently large grids. TCR is likely being looked at as a direction should that change.
TCR is much closer to GS/GT4 performance wise than to ST, though...
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Black Swan has withdrawn from Road America (and possibly future races later this season) after the death of owner/driver Tim Pappas' father on Monday per Racer Magazine.

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Old 4 Aug 2016, 18:43 (Ref:3663470)   #3784
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Magnus NSX GT3 in 2017?
Magnus, Shank or Stevenson according to http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/13280...a-nsx-gt3-deal

Weird to see 2 teams in the running that bought new equipment over the past winter but I guess the Audis have good resale value.

I hope Shank stays in prototype but anyways it'll be great to see a pair of NSXs in GTD next year!
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Magnus, Shank or Stevenson according to http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/13280...a-nsx-gt3-deal

Weird to see 2 teams in the running that bought new equipment over the past winter but I guess the Audis have good resale value.

I hope Shank stays in prototype but anyways it'll be great to see a pair of NSXs in GTD next year!
I do not see Shank leaving the Prototype class.








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Old 5 Aug 2016, 13:32 (Ref:3663577)   #3787
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Yeah, this would be an "in addition" thing.

BTW, Lexus has an ad out currently for the RC-F that features the GTD car.
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2017 sked out, LRP becomes GT only.
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P3 into Lites as the headlining class, will join WSC at LRP.
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PC out from Long Beach? Awesome. PC out from Lime Rock? Even better. I like the mix up of P and GT-only, gives a nice mix to the season.
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PC out from Long Beach? Awesome. PC out from Lime Rock? Even better. I like the mix up of P and GT-only, gives a nice mix to the season.
In fact only 8 PC dates next year: Daytona, Sebring, COTA, Detroit, Watkins Glen, Mosport, Road America, Road Atlanta
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Does anybody find it strange that the sole pro-am class does the most races
you would think the guys with jobs might enjoy a 8-10 race schedule instead of 12......or does the series actually see GTD as the biggest draw?
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There is NOT a huge demand for it in the US. Nobody in P Lites is going to spend double what it currently costs to get a new car - especially one that's not particularly faster. The series would be better off adopting Group CN cars - more up-to-date machinery for identical price and performance.

And exposure? In P Lites? You must be joking.
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Man.... I totally don't know anything.

EDIT; this was in response to your quote...
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Credit where it's due, you called it.
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Finally getting rid of pc. Hopefully some step up to dpi but I think that's a stretch.
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Non-100%-spec NASCAR category without immense bopping?



Of course, being in Lites means it's somewhat pointless to purchase LMP3 (what with the non-existent coverage and joke of a sprint races)

Oh and LMPC finally getting hit by that asteroid, about time. Kudos also to not pleasing Oreca all the time and giving them extension after extension of spec contracts, even if there had been upgrade chassis
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Lots of stuff in the State of the Series announcement!

IWSC headed to 3 classes in 18.

"P" class in 17 will be DPi and P2 equalized as a single class, reinstatement of the Trueman award for privateers with a Le Mans invite attached to it.

PC for 17 then no replacement in 18

GTLM as is

GTD as is

CTSC:

GS transitioning to GT4, in 18 will be full on GT4 only.

ST to stay the same with the possibility of TCR joining in 18.

IMSA Lites:

LMP3 to become the top PC1 class
current L1 cars to become PC2 class
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Full class change info here: http://www.imsa.com/news/082016/imsa...rm-innovations

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2017 IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship Schedule

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Jan. 26-29 Rolex 24 At Daytona P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Daytona International Speedway – Daytona Beach, Florida 24 Hours
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March 15-18 Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring Fueled by Fresh From Florida P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Sebring International Raceway – Sebring, Florida 12 Hours
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April 7-8 BUBBA burger SportsCar Grand Prix at Long Beach P/GTLM/GTD

Long Beach, California 100 Minutes
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May 5-7 Circuit of The Americas P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Austin, Texas 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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June 2-3 Chevrolet Belle Isle Detroit Grand Prix P/PC/GTD

Belle Isle Park – Detroit, Michigan 100 Minutes
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June 30-July 2 Sahlen’s Six Hours of The Glen P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Watkins Glen International – Watkins Glen, New York 6 Hours
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July 7-9 Mobil 1 SportsCar Grand Prix P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Canadian Tire Motorsport Park – Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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July 21-22 IMSA WeatherTech Northeast Grand Prix GTLM/GTD

Lime Rock Park – Lakeville, Connecticut 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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Aug. 4-6 Continental Tire Road Race Showcase P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Road America – Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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Aug. 25-27 Michelin GT Challenge GTLM/GTD

VIRginia International Raceway – Danville, Virginia 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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Sept. 23-24 Continental Tire Monterey Grand Prix powered by Mazda P/GTLM/GTD

Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca – Monterey, California 2 Hours, 40 Minutes
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Oct. 5-7 Petit Le Mans P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Road Atlanta – Braselton, Georgia 10 Hours
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IMSA WeatherTech Championship Sanctioned Test Sessions

Date Venue Classes:
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Nov. 15-16, 2016 Daytona International Speedway P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Daytona Beach, Florida
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Dec. 13-14, 2016 Daytona International Speedway P/GTLM/GTD

Daytona Beach, Florida
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Jan. 6-8, 2017 Roar Before The Rolex 24 At Daytona P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Daytona Beach, Florida
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Feb. 23-24, 2017 Sebring International Raceway P/PC/GTLM/GTD

Sebring, Florida

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2017 IMSA Continental Tire SportsCar Challenge Schedule

Date Venue / Location Duration

Jan. 27 Daytona International Speedway – Daytona Beach, Florida 4 Hours

March 17 Sebring International Raceway – Sebring, Florida 2 Hours

May 6 Circuit of The Americas - Austin, Texas 2 Hours

July 1 Watkins Glen International – Watkins Glen, New York 2 Hours

July 8 Canadian Tire Motorsport Park – Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada 2 Hours

July 22 Lime Rock Park – Lakeville, Connecticut 2 Hours

Aug. 4-6 Road America – Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin 2 Hours

Aug. 26 VIRginia International Raceway – Danville, Virginia 2 Hours

Sept. 23 Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca – Monterey, California 4 Hours*

Oct. 6 Road Atlanta – Braselton, Georgia 2 Hours

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